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Ockham
October 22, 2008, 4:03pm Report to Moderator
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When I came upon this article, I shared it with a friend.  The exact response I got was, "I have to say that I am disappointed and heartsick over the erosion of what I always saw as Mr. McCain's greatest asset--his integrity, dignity and probity."  And that pretty much says it for me too.  I've spent a long time admiring McCain's dauntless pursuit of the 'right' way for office seekers and holders to behave.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27320899?GT1=43001
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October 22, 2008, 4:05pm Report to Moderator
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And don't forget Baracks expenditures

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/expend.php?cid=N00009638&cycle=2008

Food/Meetings     $437,144
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Ockham
October 22, 2008, 4:18pm Report to Moderator
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I'm afraid I'm lost with that reply.  It relates to 'integrity, dignity, and probity' exactly how?
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October 22, 2008, 4:23pm Report to Moderator
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Just leaves one in awe of the millions spent while the rest of us scramble to put food on the table, pay for healthcare and make mortgage payments. Show me the integrity and dignity in flaunting that in the face of "middle class" Americans.
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Ockham
October 22, 2008, 4:31pm Report to Moderator
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Ah.  So Obama is 'flaunting' in this?  A legitimate campaign expense somehow 'flaunts.'  Is there any campaign expense that does not do the same then?  One would gather that $210,177 is somehow below the 'flaunting' threshold.  Is that correct MT?

http://www.opensecrets.org/pre.....5&goButt2=Submit
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October 22, 2008, 5:38pm Report to Moderator
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–verb (used without object)
1.     to parade or display oneself conspicuously, defiantly, or boldly.
2.     to wave conspicuously in the air.
–verb (used with object)
3.     to parade or display ostentatiously: to flaunt one's wealth.
4.     to ignore or treat with disdain: He was expelled for flaunting military regulations.


Yes.  
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Ockham
October 22, 2008, 6:07pm Report to Moderator
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Reading your last post, I'll go out on a limb and assume you are defining the word 'flaunt.'  It is suggested, but not said.  That's an interesting stance.  Exactly then where is the dollar line divider between $210.177 (which shoots up to $360.177 if Palin's wardrobe is included) and $437.144?  One would gather that you have this demarcation line firmly etched somewhere, so could you share that figure with the rest of us please.

In fact, it is preposterous if not imbecilic to call expenses for Food/Meetings 'flaunting' and do so in defense of the money spent on Palin's, and it seems McCain's physical appearance(s).  Absolutely absurd. It reduces credibility to shards.  

Read this: nothing previously posted here as yet so perfectly defines hypocrisy in so absolutely a self-contained manner. There's a definition you can live with.
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Hey...they the reps are doing what obama is proposing to do when elected....SPREADING THE WEALTH!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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October 22, 2008, 6:49pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from bumblethru
Hey...they the reps are doing what obama is proposing to do when elected....SPREADING THE WEALTH!


Amen.
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October 22, 2008, 7:18pm Report to Moderator
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I really dont give a hoot about how much the DNC or the RNC spend on their 'roosters' (it's still a fight)....I dont directly or personally apply my hard
earned money to their 'hollywood/dollywood' crap.......

anyone ready for some bathtub gin????? we could sell it and finance our own party.......I bet we all could use a makeover the time we spend here
click click clicking away.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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How did we get here??? How you ask??? human animal instincts loosing sight of what is real and what is not.....pavlov's dog......I'm no scholar but,
loosing the ability to actually take the time to discern, see, hear, learn etc has taken a back seat to get get get, look look look, listen listen listen
want want want....Lord of the Flies, Animal Farm the list is endless..........not to mention plain oldfashioned greed, covetousness and the rest of the list


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Main Entry: de·sid·er·a·tum  
Pronunciation: \di-ˌsi-də-ˈrä-təm, -ˌzi-, -ˈrā-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural de·sid·er·a·ta  \-tə\
Etymology: Latin, neuter of desideratus
Date: 1652
: something desired as essential


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.


If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.


Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let not this blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.


Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.


Therefore, be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams; it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful.


Strive to be happy.


--- Max Ehrmann, 1927


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I've read this before...years ago and really liked it. I forgot all about it actually. Thanks for resurfacing it again.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Rene
October 22, 2008, 9:22pm Report to Moderator
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I have Desiderata framed and hanging on my wall.  
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