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bumblethru
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Obama was born outside the United States and is ineligible for the presidency.

The Obama Web site dismisses the claim that the candidate was born anywhere but in the United States as “completely false” and “groundless.”

As proof, the Obama’s campaign has produced a “certificate of live birth” from Hawaii indicating that Barack Hussein Obama II was born Aug. 4, 1961. Critics, however say the document could have easily been forged and is not a substitute for a certified birth certificate.

No reporter has been allowed to see the original certificate of live birth or its certificate number, which is blacked out on copies of it on the Obama site.

Skeptics note that Obama’s “Father’s Race” is identified on this document as “African,” a geographic and modern politically correct term rather than a 1961 racial designation. The standard term used on American birth certificates until the U.S. Census changed it in 1980 would have been “Negro.”

Former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, Philip J. Berg, a Democrat with mixed credibility (he has supported conspiracy theories involving 9/11), has filed a lawsuit to force Obama to produce a certified copy of his birth certificate. According to Berg, Obama’s paternal grandmother has said she was present at his birth in Kenya, after which his mother promptly returned with her baby to the United States.

If that is true, Obama could be constitutionally ineligible to be president.


http://www.newsmax.com/headlin.....mp;promo_code=6DC0-1


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Very similar to the  " Blue Moon Conspiricy " involving  the 1969 moon landing, where  it is a little known fact that Elvis Presley accompanied-  astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to the lunar surface and becomes the first man to walk on the moon. But an accident on the surface causes NASA to abort the mission and broadcast a version of the landing without Elvis....


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Elvis and the Blue Moon Conspiracy (2003), by Mark McGinty, tells the satirical story of the 1969 moon landing, where Elvis Presley accompanies astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to the lunar surface and becomes the first man to walk on the moon. An accident on the surface causes NASA to abort the mission and broadcast a version of the landing without Elvis, later dubbed a "hoax" by a little known reporter named Dani Mitchell. Elvis is replaced by an impersonator named Jimmy Orr who lives out the rest of Presley's life.
[edit]Literary significance and reception

The reviews of Elvis and the Blue Moon Conspiracy were mixed. Nigel Patterson of the Elvis Information Network describes the novel as: "an entertaining book which provides a fresh and innovative approach to Elvis' fictional adventures." [1] Robert Barclay of Midwest Book Review calls it: "a wonderful romp in never-land. The whole idea of Elvis on the moon is patently absurd, but the author has peppered his story with enough real facts to make you want to believe it. The reader will enjoy meeting a wide variety of delightfully crazy characters. This is definitely entertaining. I give it high marks for originality. [2] However, in Gregory L. Reese's Elvis Religion: The Cult of the King, in which the book is classified as speculative fiction, Reese states that the book: "end up neither as funny as it thinks it is or as it could have been." [3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_and_the_Blue_Moon_Conspiracy


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Do we have to get a passport with an original birth certificate???? or how about a license in NYS for nursing,MD,ESQ etc.........

SHOW ME THE PAPER TRAIL--------If this statute and requirement is not held up and held up high----we will kiss our American pioneering butts
good-bye......and I really dont care if it is true/false but there is a standard for a reason----would that be revolution?????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Judge tosses lawsuit challenging Obama citizenship

Oct 25, 3:37 PM (ET)

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's qualifications to be president.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick on Friday night rejected the suit by attorney Philip J. Berg, who alleged that Obama was not a U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency. Berg claimed that Obama is either a citizen of his father's native Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia after he moved there as a boy.

Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father. His parents divorced and his mother married an Indonesian man.

Internet-fueled conspiracy theories question whether Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by the Constitution for a presidential candidate and whether he lost his citizenship while living abroad.

Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."



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Let me just say.....!@#$#@^$^#$%@#$%!@#$%^%^&......what the hell.....so the sky is what color in his world???? and how many moons does earth have


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Let me just say.....!@#$#@^$^#$%@#$%!@#$%^%^&......what the hell.....so the sky is what color in his world???? and how many moons does earth have


Okham mentioned in post # 8 that a " friend " had given the prognosis  of the Berg suit-

“It looks like he’s taking preemptory action (a la the Bush Doctrine, that Sarah Palin never heard of) and is trying to get a quick and dirty judicial ruling that would preempt any Republican action on similar issues later.  He files the lawsuit and controls the lawsuit because he is the plaintiff.  Obama’s people do the defense and basically will ask the court for some species of declaratory relief; that is, to decide the case on the pleadings without any litigation.  Since Berg controls the plaintiff side and Obama controls the defense, they can pretty much assure the outcome they want; the outcome being: no case, Obama wins.  Now, let the Republicans bring the same case and it will be dismissed out of hand because it is, in law, res judicata; that is, already decided."

Which apears to have been way outside the box most think in  ( MT- bumble-Senders etc ).  This post began with a rediculus assertion- and you now acted surprised ?   Paleeeze


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Let me just say.....!@#$#@^$^#$%@#$%!@#$%^%^&......what the hell.....so the sky is what color in his world???? and how many moons does earth have


My sky is a mix of Burlywood and Rose Madder, and because I was born Roman Catholic, everything out there orbits the earth (we still have an Office of The Inquisitor at the Vatican, and are working assiduously at locating that Copernicus thug), and it has lots of moons, like Mars, and Jupiter (both false Gods) and so on.

Err, you were referring directly to me, no?

And 'no,' I absolutely am not paranoid just because I know who they're talking about when those NFL players have those huddles during the Super Bowl.
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The truth will come out someday one way or another.
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The truth will come out someday one way or another.


Sort of like- Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone ?


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I'm still waiting for the Kennedy Family to release the letters they said would be released 20 years after the assassination of Pres Kennedy.
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The truth (maybe) will come out when the generation is dead and gone.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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My sky is a mix of Burlywood and Rose Madder, and because I was born Roman Catholic, everything out there orbits the earth (we still have an Office of The Inquisitor at the Vatican, and are working assiduously at locating that Copernicus thug), and it has lots of moons, like Mars, and Jupiter (both false Gods) and so on.

Err, you were referring directly to me, no?

And 'no,' I absolutely am not paranoid just because I know who they're talking about when those NFL players have those huddles during the Super Bowl.



No,,I was not referring to you....I was referring to the Judge's statement......



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Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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No,,I was not referring to you....I was referring to the Judge's statement......



Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."

Here is a good translation into english-

“Standing” means you have to have your tit somehow in the wringer.  The court said that any conceivable harm to society or to any specific party as a result of a candidate’s possible ineligibility to run and be elected is so undemonstrable and far reaching as to preclude any individual voter from bringing the action.  Therefore, no individual voter has standing.  Who does?  Possibly a political party or a state legislature or, always, the attorney general of the U.S.

If this doesn’t necessarily seem logical to you, don’t worry about it.  Many court decisions don’t seem to make sense by the rules of logic.  Rather, the courts are often influenced by practical problems, political climates and the like.  Under those circumstances, they make a decision and then try to torture the existing law into supporting that decision.  Think Bush v. Gore


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