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June 16, 2008, 5:08pm Report to Moderator
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Obama's blunder years begin


First published: Monday, June 16, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., flexed his new power as the next Democratic presidential nominee to show that uppity girl Hillary that he's now boss, and has no stomach for any serious competition.

    
By exposing his previously concealed arrogant nature, Obama seems to be about to make a major political blunder. Vladimer Putin must be thrilled. What an opportunity.

Obama's ostentatious search for a vice presidential candidate is designed to humiliate Sen. Clinton by equating her with a bunch of Democratic folks who did not run, did not win roughly 18 million votes and have little to offer except subservience.

He is, plainly, afraid of a running mate who has her own independent power base. This is not strong leadership. What a weak beginning to his "new" era. While she showed great class in getting out gracefully, he is left wringing his hands about how to appeal to her voters without her. Together, an Obama-Clinton ticket could beat the socks off the GOP nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. Alone, Obama will appear politically naked against a genuine war hero.

The magic of the first black man and first woman at the top of a presidential ticket that created so much campaign excitement is fading. Foolishly, he seems on the verge of throwing away what could have been an extraordinary four years in the White House.

This campaign was really about the two of them, not their policies. Even if he gets to the White House, he really can't win over the country without her. She is the nation's pre-eminent heroine -- her courage in the face of male sexism, ignorant youthful idealism and media hostility was incredible. Now that's a leader.

(No insult meant to youthful idealism, just a caution about its usefulness as a political barometer. When I was in college back in the dark ages, I thought Adlai Stevenson, a charming egghead, vastly superior to Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower. Long after the election was over, I gradually figured out we were far better off with Ike.)

Hillary has surpassed Bill in popular support, and it is time for the ex-president to stay in the background. They will always be a team, but she is no longer the dependent partner -- she is now the head of the Clinton brand. Obama's search for an alternative to Clinton is a pitiful display of a desire to punish the person who could help him most.

If only he (and his wife, Michelle) just had the courage to deal with Hillary. Nobody else comes close, unless what he wants is a silent rubber stamp incapable of assuming the presidency some day. The Obama campaign seems to believe it can make the candidate look woman-friendly without Hillary by trotting out his wife and children. This doesn't work, guys.

Everybody has to feel the blessings. When she bowed out, Clinton left no doubt but that she would back Obama. You may distrust her, but she has made it clear she is not going to repeat defeated rival Sen. Edward Kennedy's rudeness on stage. He turned his back as President Jimmy Carter accepted his re-election nomination. It took Kennedy's reputation a while to recover, and Carter lost the election.

So a failure to name her his running mate and endanger the presidential election would be entirely his own doing. If this is the kind of judgment we could expect from him in a world crisis, heaven help the Democratic Party and the country.

Marianne Means' e-mail address is means@hearstdc.com.


http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=696107&category=OPINION
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Obama should just pick his wife Michelle for his running mate. Obama obviously has a 'control' issue. And he needs to be in the front at all times. He needs a shadow VP. Clearly not a outstanding politician that has made a name for him/herself. Let's face it, any politician would be a threat to Obama, and outshine him, since he has not been in politics long enough to have made a name for himself. And he knows that.

The only thing Obama has going for him is his 'charisma'. And that he does have. He comes across more 'real' as opposed to political. That's not enough to make me vote for him.


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If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your BS.
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Two Muslim women at Barack Obama's rally in Detroit Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women's headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.

The campaign has apologized to the women, all Obama supporters who said they felt betrayed by their treatment at the rally.

"This is of course not the policy of the campaign. It is offensive and counter to Obama's commitment to bring Americans together and simply not the kind of campaign we run," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton, who added that the volunteers were acting contrary to the campaign's policy. "We sincerely apologize for this behavior."

Building a human backdrop to a political candidate, a set of faces to appear on television and in photographs, is always a delicate exercise in demographics and political correctness. Advance staffers typically pick supporters out of a crowd to reflect the candidate's message.

When Obama won North Carolina amid questions about his ability to connect with white voters, for instance, he stood in front of a group of middle-aged white women waving small American flags. Across the aisle, a Hispanic New Hampshire Democrat, Roberto Fuentes, told Politico that he was recently asked, and declined, to contribute to the "diversity" of the crowd behind Senator John McCain at a Nashua event.

But for Obama, the old-fashioned image-making contrasts with his promise to transcend identity politics, and to embrace all elements of America. The incidents in Michigan, which has one of the largest Arab and Muslim populations in the country, also raise an aspect of his campaign that sometimes rubs Muslims the wrong way: The candidate has vigorously denied a false, viral rumor that he himself is Muslim. But the denials seem to some at times to imply that there something wrong with the faith, though Obama occasionally adds that he means no disrespect to Islam.

"I was coming to support him, and I felt like I was discriminated against by the very person who was supposed to be bringing this change, who I could really relate to," said Hebba Aref, a 25-year-old lawyer who lives in the Detroit suburb of Bloomfield Hills. "The message that I thought was delivered to us was that they do not want him associated with Muslims or Muslim supporters."

In Detroit Monday the two different Obama volunteers – in separate incidents– made it clear that headscarves wouldn't be in the picture. The volunteers gave different explanations for excluding the hijabs, one bluntly political and the other less clear.

In Aref's case, there was no ambiguity.

That incident began when the volunteer asked Aref's friend Ali Koussan and two other friends, Aref's brother Sharif and another young lawyer, Brandon Edward Miller, whether they would like to sit behind the stage. The three young men said they would, but mentioned they were with friends.

The men said the volunteer, a twenty-something African American woman in a green shirt, asked if their friends looked and were dressed like the young men, who were all light-skinned and wearing suits. Miller said yes, but mentioned that one of their friends was wearing a headscarf with her suit.

The volunteer "explained to me that because of the political climate and what's going on in the world and what's going on with Muslim Americans it's not good for her to be seen on TV or associated with Obama," said Koussan, who is a law student at Wayne State University.

Both Koussan and Miller said they specifically recalled the volunteer citing the "political climate" in telling them they couldn't sit behind Obama.

"I was like, 'You've got to be kidding me. Are you serious?'" Koussan recalled.

Shimaa Abdelfadeel's story was different. She'd waited on line outside the Joe Louis Arena for three hours in the sun, and was walking through the giant hall when a volunteer approached two of her non-Muslim friends, a few steps ahead of her, and asked if they'd like to sit in "special seating" behind the stage, said one friend, Brittany Marino, who like Abdelfadeel is a recent University of Michigan graduate who works for the university.

When they said they were with Abdelfadeel, the volunteer told them their friend would have to take the headscarf off or stay out of the special section, Marino said. They declined the seats.

Abdelfadeel, after recovering from the shock of the incident, went to look for the volunteer and confronted her minutes later, she said in an email interview with Politico.

"We're not letting anyone with anything on their heads like baseballs or scarves sit behind the stage," she paraphrased the volunteer as saying, an account Marino confirmed. "It has nothing to do with your religion!"

In most work and school settings, religious dress – Jewish yarmulkes, Sikh turbans, Muslim hijabs – is permitted where secular clothing like baseball caps is not.

"The scarf is not just something she can take off – it's part of her identity," said Marino.

Photographs of the event also show men with hats in the section behind Obama and Gore, though not directly behind the candidate.

Abdelfadeel, like Aref, felt "disappointed, angry, and let-down," she later wrote.

She was "let-down that the Obama campaign continously perpetuates this attitude towards Muslims and Arabs - as if being merely associated one is a sin."

The two womens' friends who witnessed the incidents were disappointed too. Aref's friend Miller said he was "shocked" by the contrast between Obama's message and their experience.

"He was the one candidate who you would expect to stand up for something like that – and behind the scenes you have something completely contrary to what he was running on," said Koussan, Aref's other friend.

Aref and her friends complained to the campaign, and after those complaints and an inquiry from Politico, Obama's director of advance, Emmett S. Beliveau, called her to apologize.

An Obama aide also noted that the campaign has no policy against the candidate's appearing with women in headscarves: The next morning at Wayne State University, Obama posed for a picture with a student wearing a hijab.

Photographs from a Seattle rally earlier this year also clearly show a couple in Muslim clothes behind the candidate.

The administrator of the "Muslims4Obama" group on Obama's website, which is not formally part of the campaign, also said she had "not heard anything regarding Muslim supporters being steered away from sitting behind Sen. Obama at the event," and noted that he'd had Muslim supporters present at events in Minnesota, including one at which he stood with a Muslim member of Congress, Keith Ellison.

Aref said she was glad Obama had apologized, but not entirely satisfied.

"I think this is a much bigger deal than maybe they're perceiving it as," she said, noting that Obama had placed a personal call to a television reporter he'd dismissively called "Sweetie."

"An apology from him personally would be better," she said, then reconsidered. "If they are true to their word, I think it would suffice to have an invitation to their next rally and have seats behind him and show up on TV."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168.html
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Obama is going to have a rough go of his campaign. Between his middle name(muslum), his church, his not wearing a flag pin, not placing his hand on his heart during the pledge and the fact that he has no past successes while in his 2 year office.

All he can run on is his promises for the 'future', which all politician's do now. So I really don't think he'll make it to the oval office. And yea, maybe people are sick of the reps, but at least they know what to expect from them. They clearly will be venturing into the unknown with obama.


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The only thing that would 'balance' him out would be to have Tiger Woods as his VP and then we would all cheer.......


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they are all hypnotised by his presecence, what do you mean. he is a shoe in, sadly
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He is definitely NOT a shoe in. I am already tired of seeing and hearing him and his counterpart, Hillary. Not that McCain is anything to write home about...but a vote for McCain would be a 'no vote' for Obama. This will be an uphill battle for Obama, even with Hillary at his side.


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Where is Condoleezza????? I'm tired of Hillary's flap flap flap......and McCain's thump thump thump......

I DONT LIKE EITHER CHOICES FOR EITHER PARTY....... >


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