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Spitzer call girl already gone 'Wild'

By SOLVEJ SCHOU, Associated Press
Tuesday, March 18, 2008

LOS ANGELES -- Stop that $1 million check: It turns out the call girl linked to Eliot Spitzer had already shed her clothes for "Girls Gone Wild" as an 18-year-old while partying in Miami, the video company's founder said Tuesday.
     
Joe Francis had reached out to Ashley Alexandra Dupre, now 22, with an offer of $1 million to appear in a non-nude spread for his company's new magazine, plus a chance to join the "Girls Gone Wild" tour bus, his company announced Tuesday.
But Francis said someone had a revelation at the Tuesday morning staff meeting: Did anyone think to check the archives?
They did, he said -- and there she was.
"It'll save me a million bucks," Francis told The Associated Press on Tuesday. "It's kind of like finding a winning lottery ticket in the cushions of your couch."
Francis said at that point, his offer was off the table: "We actually had been dealing with her rep," he said. "Our (offer) was the real deal. We just never made the connection."
He said his employees got to work on pulling the footage and planned to offer it on the Web site by Tuesday evening, with a free sampling on the front page and the rest available with a $29.95 monthly subscription.
Dupre's attorney Don D. Buchwald declined comment.
According to a "Girls Gone Wild" press release, Dupre visited Miami in 2003 to celebrate her 18th birthday. After fighting with a friend and getting thrown out of her hotel, Dupre found a nearby "Girls Gone Wild" bus, the company said.
She signed legal papers and spent a full week on the bus, filming seven full-length tapes which included nudity and same-sex encounters, according to the company.
"I personally ended up buying her a Greyhound bus ticket back home to North Carolina," Francis told the AP.
Francis returned to California last week after being sentenced to time served and fines in Florida in a case involving filming underage girls. He still faces trial on federal tax evasion charges that carry a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.
Dupre's public profile has skyrocketed since former New York Gov. Spitzer resigned earlier this week amid the prostitution scandal. He was accused of spending tens of thousands of dollars on prostitutes, including a February tryst with a call girl named "Kristen," since identified as Dupre.
Dupre's MySpace page was hit more than 5 million times in the days immediately after the scandal broke. Her musical efforts, including two songs posted at the music sharing site Aime Street, were listened to hundreds of thousands of times and played on national airwaves.
Hustler publisher Larry Flynt told The AP last Friday that he e-mailed Dupre offering her $1 million to appear nude in his magazine, but didn't sound optimistic that she would settle for that amount. Flynt suggested that by the time Dupre starts talking, she may be too big a media phenomenon for a simple magazine spread.
"She is no doubt going to do a book. There will probably be a movie," he said. "I think she is going to have so many offers coming in that it will probably be wishful thinking just to get in the door."
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Sex is all around us, and often for money
Froma Harrop

    The tale of the 22-year-old prostitute frequented by former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer dredges up an awkward memory. I once shared an apartment — it now amazes me to say — with a call girl who brought her johns home.
    Let me explain.
    While in my 20s, I advertised for a nonsmoker to split the costs of my two-bedroom Manhattan apartment. The most attractive respondent was a young woman I’ll call Claire. Friendly and polite, she had a solid job at a midtown corporation. Claire seemed a good match.
    Shortly after she moved in, I noticed something odd about her social life. The same two men would come by every few weeks. They would go into Claire’s room for some minutes, then come out for tea. Sometimes I would join them in conversation.
    How could I be so dumb? For one thing, the guys didn’t fit my stereotype of johns. They were young, good-looking business types who could have picked someone up at a bar, no problem. That they spent so little time in her room made me think that they were just talking.
    In any case, Claire had a regular boyfriend. He was highly opinionated, and I actually preferred the johns to him.
    Claire bore zero resemblance to the streetwalker in purple spandex or the highpriced call girl in designer labels. She was not voluptuous, and her style of dress was artsy. Her favorite activity was rollerblading, for goodness sake. Her prize possession was a flowered teapot.
    A week before Claire left for a two-week vacation to Europe, the two businessmen came by, one after the other. That seemed strange. I saw the second guy hand Claire a check as he left. Dim bulb that I was, the idea that this was payment for sex never occurred to me. I assumed that he owed Claire money for something ordinary. Perhaps she had bought tickets for a play.
    The day after she departed, Claire’s phone rang. (We had separate lines.) I picked up her phone to let whoever was calling know that she would be away for two weeks.
    “Is Claire there?” a man asked.
    “No, she’ll be in Europe for the next two weeks,” I responded.
    “Well, I could see you,” he said.
    “You certainly may not,” I said indignantly. He hung up.
    Enough lights went off in my head to blind Times Square.
    When Claire returned, I asked her to leave without elaborating. I’m sure Claire knew the reason, but she nonetheless seemed hurt. Claire no doubt saw these activities as an extension of an active sex life. If a fellow hands her checks afterward, what’s the big deal? Had I accused her of prostitution with a capital “P,” she probably would have been shocked.
    There’s an episode of “Law & Order” centering on middle-class college girls who join an upscale prostitution ring. They did it in a similar mindset — to make some money on the side for life’s luxuries.
    The words of Ashley Youmans, the 22-year-old call girl whose servicing of Spitzer led to the governor’s downfall, could have been Claire’s.
    “I just don’t want to be thought of as a monster,” she told The New York Times. Youmans said she might move back with her family in New Jersey “to relax.”
    Paid sex is all around us. It’s not just rouged hookers hanging on car doors. It’s in private homes — and even college dormitories. And what about the “understandings” between the trophy wife and her frog tycoon? She has her quid pro quo. For all you know, some variation of sex-for-money could be happening right next door — or as I found out, closer.
Froma Harrop is a nationally syndicated columnist.
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If the link above is ALL true, then it makes me even madder at Spitzer for being so STUPID!! Could it be, that Spitzer had the inside information on this banking scandal and was just about ready to break it to NYS and the rest of the country when he got caught with his pants down?

Then I am even madder at him for putting his own selfish needs before the people he represents.


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THEY ALL KNEW AND HAVE KNOWN....they ALL eat at the same trough.....whitewater anyone?????.....that is why it would be funny if money was actually chickens....folks would pay more attention and understand it better if it were thought about in a more basic way.....work for chicken and then eat chicken....there is no 'middle man' in that scenario.....the 'circle of life' called the economy is more like a merry-go-round with many hands reaching in for money...only there are only so many horses to ride for the control, the horses being the investment firms and the only 'black horse' is the Fed Reserve........the rest of us are waiting in line for direction.....mean while the lettuce pickers are right along side of us and we are afraid/angry at them.....I say be angry at the 'black horse'.....no one can take from us...but, we allow them to control us......


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CAPITOL
Corridors of power long known for hanky-panky

BY MICHAEL GORMLEY The Associated Press

    Of all the wisecracks heard in the marble halls of New York’s Capitol after Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s downfall in a call-girl scandal, one jest enlightened as much as it stung: Spitzer’s got to be the only guy in Albany who PAYS for sex.
    It is an open secret that there is a lot of fooling around going on at the statehouse — and at other statehouses, too.
    In fact, Gov. David Paterson, in an extraordinary news conference on Tuesday, his first full day on the job after taking over from Spitzer, acknowledged he had had extramarital affairs with a number of women while he was a state senator.
    At night, legislators, young staffers, younger interns, lobbyists and reporters mix at two or three bars just blocks from the Capitol. And there are numerous receptions, campaign stops and caucuses where lawmakers, straight and gay alike, often have many opportunities for a hookup.
    Up until just a few years ago, lawmakers would go “window shopping” for interns at the start of every legislative session. In a practice that went on for decades, the interns would be corraled in a Capitol newsstand, and legislators would take their pick.
    The hanky-panky even has its own lexicon: There’s the “Bear Mountain Compact,” which says that what goes on north of the state park just outside New York City stays there. Lobbyists, staffers and reporters who seek to enhance their influence by bedding powerful lawmakers are known as “big game hunters.” And the men who sleep with the female lawmakers are “boy toys.”
    “Unfortunately, many of the people who seek public office are flawed people to begin with, and the environment in Albany just tends to bring that out,” said Paul Clyne, former district attorney in Albany.
    Clyne issued a scathing report in 2004 on the internship program at the Capitol, famously saying he would never let his daughter become an intern. The report led to reforms in the program, including an end to fraternization between lawmakers and interns outside the office.
    “There was a lot of hitting on us and boundaries being crossed,” said one young woman lobbyist who was part of that scene for years.
    In truth, the phenomenon is not new, and it’s not confined to Albany. By all accounts, the same thing goes on at other state capitals, particularly where the statehouse is far from the main population centers and lawmakers stay overnight several times a week. Men and women outside politics are prone to some of the same behavior when they go on business trips.
    “One of the things about Washington and every state capital is for some people it’s like going to a convention,” said state Assemblyman John McEneny, an Albany Democrat and former Albany County historian. “What happens is you get individuals who would not behave the same way if they had the disapproval of friends and neighbors keeping an eye on them.”
    Accusations of sex and politics have taken down congressmen and senators and nearly brought down President Clinton in 1998. A sex scandal was the undoing of New Jersey Gov. James E. McGreevey in 2004 and derailed Colorado Sen. Gary Hart’s 1988 presidential campaign.
    “It really is not anything new,” said Tom Fiedler, who covered Hart’s downfall as a reporter with The Miami Herald and is now a visiting lecturer at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University “I would have no reason to believe any public officer is any less susceptible to temptations of the flesh than any one who is not in public office.”
    But the New York state capital — a place of larger-than-life personalities like Theodore and Franklin D. Roosevelt and big ideas like the Erie Canal — seems to have an outsized history of sexual conduct and misconduct.
    Last week, Spitzer’s career collapsed just days after the 48-yearold married man was identifi ed by federal authorities as Client 9 of a high-priced prostitution ring.
    Other Albany cases include Michael Boxley, the chief lawyer for the speaker of the Assembly, who was led out of the Capitol in handcuffs in 2003 and later pleaded guilty to sexual misconduct after a legislative aide accused him of rape. In 2004, a 19-year-old intern said state Assemblyman Adam Clayton Powell IV, a member of a legendary Harlem political family, gave her alcohol and took her to his motel room for sex. Powell, 42 at the time, said the sex was consensual; no charges were filed.
    And in 1992, New York Chief Judge Sol Wachtler, a potential Republican candidate for governor, was charged with harassing a socialite and GOP fundraiser after she ended their affair. He admitted posing as a private detective to stalk the woman and mailing her menacing letters, including a threat to kidnap her teenage daughter. Wachtler served 13 months in prison.
    Stories of mistresses followed Govs. Thomas Dewey, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Grover Cleveland.
    In 1961, a photo appeared in the press of Gov. Nelson Rockefeller helping his wife down the roof of the governor’s mansion as firefighters battled a fire. Happy Rockefeller was in robe and nightgown while the governor was smiling, dapper in a suit and rakish scarf. He had reportedly been out for a night on the town before he rushed back for a photo.
    Some cases quietly lead to resignations and job transfers before they ever reach the Legislative Ethics Committee, which is criticized by good-government groups as too passive.
    A Republican former lawmaker, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject, said lawmakers have become more discreet about their dalliances, because of such factors as more competitive campaigns, cell phone cameras, and political blogs that can instantly and widely circulate accusations.
    “You take your life in your hands if you do this now,” he said.
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State told to delay Spitzer scandal probe

BY MICHAEL VIRTANEN The Associated Press

    Federal prosecutors are asking New York authorities to hold off investigating the call-girl scandal that led to Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s resignation while a federal probe continues.
    “We’ve already been in contact with U.S. Attorney’s Office. They requested us not to do anything because they’re looking into all aspects of this matter,” said Stephen Del Giacco, a spokesman for the state Inspector General. “We see it as a perfectly reasonable request and not unusual.”
    Spokesmen for the U.S. Attorney’s office in Manhattan and for the state Public Integrity Commission declined to comment. Federal prosecutors have charged four people with operating a prostitution ring that received money from Spitzer’s bank account.
    One pending question is what was known by the trooper detail responsible round the clock for Spitzer’s security. State Police have declined to comment on what they said are security issues.
    Senate Investigations Committee Chairman George Winner said Thursday his panel would be interested in whatever report is being done by the state police internally about the security detail protocols, as well as any report that comes from federal prosecutors. The committee has been investigating whether the Spitzer administration improperly used state police in a political scheme to discredit Republican Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno last year.
    “Clearly if there was state police involvement and certainly those issues are hopefully being addressed now internally by state police,” Winner said. “Once they issue a report we’ll take look at that.”
    A hearing was held last week in state Supreme Court in Manhattan on the Spitzer administration’s attempt to quash committee subpoenas for records from the governor’s office and records and testimony i . . from his former communications director, Darren Dopp, who has been accused of a leading role in the plot against Bruno.
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Federal prosecutors are asking New York authorities to hold off investigating the call-girl scandal that led to Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s resignation while a federal probe continues.


the slower it is unraveled the less the sheeple will run.....shame shame shame sham sham sham.....where is their re-valuation?

it is
G-gentlemen
O-only
L-ladies
F-forbidden


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At least Spitzer had the good sense not to linger

  While the actions leading up to former Gov. Spitzer’s resignation cannot be should not be condoned, the act of resignation should be acknowledged as an honorable one.
    While his fighting to maintain the governorship may have been successful, the cost to his family, New York and his party would have been horrendous. Thus, when faced with the choice of either giving up personal power or minimizing the impact of his actions on others, former Gov. Spitzer did the honorable thing and resigned.
    This is more than can be said for one past governor of Arkansas.
    A. J. ANGELINO
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Spitzer likely paid his way
Analysis indicates taxpayer money, campaign funds not used to pay for prostitute


By DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press
First published: Saturday, March 22, 2008

NEW YORK -- Ever since the news broke that former Gov. Eliot Spitzer was a client of a high-priced prostitution ring, people have wondered: Did he use taxpayer dollars or campaign committee money to subsidize his trysts?
An analysis by The Associated Press of a year's worth of expense reports for Spitzer's office and his 2010 campaign shows little sign that those funds were used to pay for illicit activities.
     
Federal prosecutors have yet to weigh in on the matter; so far, only the alleged organizers of the prostitution ring have been charged. Spitzer resigned last week just days after he was identified as a client.
Expense reports filed by Spitzer's campaign committee show plenty of far-flung travel for the governor, but nothing in them overtly suggests that he was taking prostitutes along or making frivolous jaunts as an excuse to be alone in a hotel room.
There are no payments from the committee to any companies that have been identified by federal authorities as fronts for prostitution.
The committee's lawyer, Kenneth Gross, said he has seen no evidence that the organization paid for hotel rooms for people who weren't on legitimate campaign business.
Records of Spitzer's state-issued credit card also show no obvious sign of having been abused for extracurricular pursuits.
Between September and February, the governor charged $4,056 in travel-related expenses to the state, including three trips to Washington, D.C., and another to a conference with Hispanic lawmakers in Puerto Rico.
But he did not use his state card to pay for the two rooms that FBI agents said he used to arrange a Feb. 13 encounter with a call girl named Kristen at Washington's Mayflower hotel.
Spitzer's campaign didn't pay for the rooms either, suggesting that the governor -- a millionaire -- paid with his own money.
That doesn't mean that taxpayers were spared any expense associated with the trip; records filed with the state comptroller's office show that the government paid Spitzer's air fare and for hotel rooms for two aides and two State Police troopers who accompanied him on the trip -- all at a cost of about $1,070.
The governor's official business in Washington that week was testifying before a congressional committee about problems in the bond insurance market.
Spitzer has told aides and his legal team that he never spent public or campaign dollars on prostitutes.
What all this means for the federal inquiry into Spitzer's conduct is unclear.
Even if authorities find that Spitzer had trysts in hotel rooms that were paid for by his campaign, a prosecution may be difficult. Using campaign money for private purposes is illegal, but candidates are generally given wide leeway on spending that may have a dual purpose.
Federal prosecutors in New York, who are leading the prostitution investigation, have not said whether they intend to charge Spitzer with any crimes.
The day Spitzer resigned, U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said the governor's departure was not part of a plea bargain.
A senior law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said it's doubtful that the U.S. attorney in the District of Columbia will bring prostitution charges against Spitzer in connection with his tryst the day before Valentine's Day, although the topic is still being discussed.
Potential violations in D.C. would be a misdemeanor charge and a requirement to attend so-called "johns school," aimed at rehabilitating prostitution solicitors.
The law firm representing Spitzer in the case referred inquiries to a publicist, who declined to comment.
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Why can’t civil servants seem to do their jobs?

    In the wake of the recent gubernatorial scandal, I have several questions.
    (1) Are the state police officers who were guarding former Gov. Spitzer the same ones he used to investigate state Sen. Bruno?
    (2) Are the state police officers who were guarding former Gov. Spitzer and who were not aware of the governor’s sexual liaisons, somehow related to the Secret Service personnel who were guarding President Clinton, and who were not aware of the president’s sexual liaisons?
    (3) How long will federal prosecutors stonewall the American people before they announce that former Gov Spitzer will not be charged with any crimes, thereby enabling him to continue with his ambitious quest for the presidency?
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SPITZER TIPSTER A GOP 'SWINGER'
TOLD FBI OF HOOKER HABIT BACK IN NOV.

By GINGER ADAMS OTIS

GOV. SPITZER"Did it with his socks on."

March 23, 2008 --
Four months before a hooker scandal brought down Eliot Spitzer, controversial Republican operative Roger Stone tipped the FBI to the governor's penchant for prostitutes.
The information Stone provided was very detailed - right down to the calf-length black socks Spitzer allegedly wore while bedding his paid paramours.

In a letter sent to the FBI on Nov. 19, Stone alleged that Spitzer "used the service of high-priced call girls" while in Florida.
Stone, a former henchman for President Richard Nixon who divides his time between his Central Park West apartment and Miami Beach, said in the letter that he had gathered the information on Spitzer from "a social contact in an adult-themed club."
Spitzer resigned last Monday, a week after his liaisons with $1,000-an-hour hooker Ashley Dupre were revealed.
Yesterday, Stone refused to comment on the letter, but told The Post: "What kind of guy does it with his socks on?"
The letter, written by Stone's lawyer, Paul Rolf Jensen, alleged that Spitzer "paid literally tens of thousands of dollars for these services," and that the Democratic former governor "paid not with credit cards or cash but through some pre-arranged transfer."
The missive's contents were confirmed to The Post by a source close to Stone. Federal authorities declined to comment on the letter, as did a Spitzer spokeswoman.
Stone's lawyer wrote to the FBI after investigators asked to speak with Stone, although they didn't specify for what purpose. He refused to talk to them, but sent the letter about Spitzer.
"It is also my client's understanding from the same source that Governor Spitzer did not remove his mid-calf-length black socks during the sex act. Perhaps you can use this detail to corroborate Mr. Stone's information," according to the letter, which was first reported by the Miami Herald.
Stone is no stranger to sex scandals.
The veteran political consultant was dumped as an operative in Bob Dole's 1996 GOP presidential campaign after Stone and his wife placed a personal ad in a swingers magazine looking for a threesome.
Stone claimed he was the victim of dirty politics, but pictures soon surfaced of him bare-chested and his wife reclining on a bed in a black negligee and thigh-high boots.
Last summer, Stone was accused of leaving a hate-filled message on the home phone of Spitzer's dad, Bernard.
The message said the 83-year-old real estate developer would be "compelled by the Senate sergeant-at-arms" to testify about "shady campaign loans" made to his son in 1994. Stone denied any involvement, and Manhattan authorities didn't press charges because the call didn't violate any laws.
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Yesterday, Stone refused to comment on the letter, but told The Post: "What kind of guy does it with his socks on?"


This is why the "penis" gets a pass when the girl gets pregnant or an abortion is at hand....for stupid statements like this....and the invisible burka still exists....so, who thinks he will be emasculated?....those that run in his circles are patting him on the back,,,,socks and all......


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The information Stone provided was very detailed - right down to the calf-length black socks Spitzer allegedly wore while bedding his paid paramours.
Now this is more information then I needed to know. Not to mention the visual that comes along with it.


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