What ya don't hear is how some of these poor poor children who are without health care, have 2 parents, who both work and making a decent buck, but refuse to pay for health care either because they don't think it is that important or they just want the money in their paycheck to so they can buy that nice new car or go on vacation. There are many many cases like this, and the parents work for companies that offer health care. Perhaps some make more money than I do and the dems expect me to foot the bill for them when I am paying for my own.
I DON'T THINK SO! Thank you Mr. Bush for this veto!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Bumble, it goes right back to all the Dems hand out programs, if they whine long enough and loud enough the Dems will make an issue of it even if there isn't a problem.
The dems just seem to find it difficult to enpower the people. They seem to have lost the ability to allow people the right of responsiblity and accountabitliy for their existance. The dems are clearly doing the people more harm than good. And it is costing the taxpayers a fortune. I say get up off your asses, get to work and provide for yourself and your family like the rest of us.It is actually a privelege to have this freedom of independence from government control. There are people in other countries that would give anything to be able to get up in the morning and go to work to make their own wage and make their own choices. Perhaps some of these blood suckers should go and live in a third world county for a while and see what they are missing.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Does this sound like socialism! something that Hillary has favored since she was in college and even wrote a paper on it. If things don't change and the government keeps controlling more and more of our lives we will have exactly the type of government that Hillary wants. We can't afford any more government sponsored programs as we're taxed almost into bankruptcy now.
Democrats mustn’t give up fighting for children’s health
House Democrats last week addressed most Republican objections to the bill vetoed by President Bush earlier this month that would have expanded the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, but it still wasn’t enough for Republicans who voted against the original bill and sustained Bush’s veto. That not a single one of them was willing to vote in favor of the revised bill means it will likely suffer the same fate as the original. That’s terrible news for the 4 million additional children who would have been eligible for coverage under the expanded program. It’s also bad news for America’s health care system. SCHIP, or Child Health Plus as it’s known in New York state, works — not only to ensure that kids from families with incomes too high for Medicaid but who can’t afford private health insurance can see a doctor for routine care when they’re sick, but to ensure that they don’t visit an emergency room instead. When that happens, it costs substantially more; and when the bill can’t be paid, hospitals get stuck. And when their costs go up, insurance premiums are sure to follow. The Republicans were concerned that the bill would have been too expensive ($35 billion more over five years than the status quo), and that it would have helped too many upper-income families. So Democrats changed the income eligibility cutoff, in almost all cases, to $62,000 for families of four, instead of $83,000 (which, given the high cost of health insurance, is hardly that much in a state like New York). They also eliminated coverage of childless adults and banned coverage of illegal immigrants — two other relatively small sticking points. But House Republicans still wouldn’t bite. So now the best that can be hoped for is that the Senate, which is expected to take the bill up this week, makes further compromises and persuades a veto-proof majority of the House to go along. (The House version passed, 265-142, seven votes shy of the two-thirds majority needed for an override.) Weakening the bill further wouldn’t exactly be desirable, and it’s still no guarantee that the Republicans would go along. So the exercise may be purely political — a club to embarrass the Republicans with during next fall’s elections come up. But if that’s what it takes to get a veto-proof majority of Congress to approve expanded health coverage for children, then so be it.
Congress passes new child health care legislation Bush promises second veto on issue BY DAVID ESPO The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — A defiant Democratic-controlled Congress voted Thursday to provide health insurance to an additional 4 million lower-income children, and President Bush vowed swiftly to cast his second straight veto on the issue. The legislation cleared the Senate on a vote of 64-30. It passed the House last week, but supporters were shy of the two-thirds majority needed to override Bush’s threatened veto. “We’re convinced that the president has undermined an effort to protect children,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said shortly before the vote. “Congress has known for weeks that the President would veto this bill,” White House press secretary Dana Perino countered in a statement shortly after the vote. “Now Congress should get back to work on legislation that covers poor children and stop using valuable floor time to make partisan statements.” In a situation of unusual political complexity, Republicans dictated the decision to pass the legislation speedily. It appeared their goal was to short-circuit attempts by supporters of the bill to reach a compromise that could attract enough votes in the House to override Bush’s veto. Attempts by Reid to delay fi nal passage of the bill until next week or longer drew objections from the GOP. “I believe a deal is within reach,” said Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, a participant in meetings with two senior Senate Republicans, Sens. Charles Grassley of Iowa and Orrin Hatch of Utah, and several members of the House GOP. Rep. Judy Biggert, R-Ill., who supported Bush’s first veto and is involved in the discussions, said “we are pretty close” to an agreement but that several issues remain. For example, she said, the two sides had narrowed their differences on the issue of insuring maximum coverage of poor children before those in slightly higher-income families can be brought into the program. Baucus said the negotiations would resume next week. The veto-threatened measure would add an estimated 4 million beneficiaries to an existing program that provides coverage for children from families who earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but cannot afford private insurance. The program currently provides benefits to roughly 6 million children. At a cost of $35 billion, the bill would be paid for through an increase in tobacco taxes, including a 61-cent rise on a package of cigarettes. Bush vetoed an earlier children’s health bill this fall, and Republican critics said it failed to give a high enough priority to covering poor children, marked a Democratic attempt to expand government-run health care, and did not take suffi - cient steps to prevent the children of illegal immigrants from receiving benefits. Democrats failed to override his veto on a vote of 273-156, 13 short of the two-thirds majority they needed. In response, Democrats launched a replacement measure, incorporating changes they said were designed to meet Republican objections to their first offering. But Bush dismissed those efforts this week, telling a business audience, “If Congress sends this bill back to me, I’m going to veto it again.” He predicted his second veto would be upheld. A day earlier, the president told House Republicans in a private meeting that he would veto any measure that raised tobacco or any other taxes, a significant hardening of the administration’s public position on the issue. DENNIS COOK/THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., discusses children’s health insurance legislation during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington Thursday.
- They are running a national 'QUIT SMOKING' campaign...right?
- They are going to fund government programs with the cigarette tax....
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Covering kids with national health care just prepares the next generation for 'Real ID' and the line of thought of :"that is how it has always been and it is mine. I dont have to think for myself".......sad sad sad.....let's do the math
hippa + child safety programs + sex offender registry + 9/11 + illegal immigrants + homeland security + national health care + drivers licenses in degrees =======REAL ID
Bush vetoes health program Bill providing insurance for kids called unacceptable BY JENNIFER LOVEN The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — President Bush vetoed legislation Wednesday that would have expanded government-provided health insurance for children, his second slap-down of a bipartisan effort in Congress to dramatically increase funding for the popular program. It was Bush’s seventh veto in seven years — all but one coming since Democrats took control of Congress in January. Wednesday was the deadline for Bush to act or let the bill become law. The president also vetoed an earlier, similar bill expanding the health insurance program. Bush vetoed the bill in private. In a statement notifying Congress of his decision, Bush said the bill was unacceptable because — like the first one — it allows adults into the program, would cover people in families with incomes above the U.S. median and raises taxes. “This bill does not put poor children first, and it moves our country’s health care system in the wrong direction,” Bush’s statement said. “Ultimately, our nation’s goal should be to move children who have no health insurance to private coverage, not to move children who already have private health insurance to government coverage.” Bush urged Congress to extend the program at its current funding level before lawmakers leave Washington for their holiday break. In fact, congressional leaders had already said earlier Wednesday that they now will try only to extend the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, well into 2008 in basically its current form. Their comments signaled that they have given up efforts to substantially expand the program. The House voted 211-180 late Wednesday to put off until Jan. 23 a vote on overriding the president’s veto. “We are not going to let this veto stand,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Republicans said Democrats were scheduling the veto override vote to coincide with the week Bush comes to Congress for the State of the Union address. The bill passed the Democraticcontrolled Senate by a veto-proof margin, but the same was not true in the House. Even after the bill was approved, negotiations continued to find a compromise version that would attract enough Republican lawmakers to override Bush’s expected veto. A two-thirds vote in both chambers is required to override a presidential veto. But that effort was unsuccessful.
SCHIP is another step to socialized medicine First published: Tuesday, December 25, 2007
Your Dec. 14 editorial lambasting President Bush's veto of yet another attempt to provide State Children's Health Insurance Program coverage to the ``working poor'' once again takes the socialist view of the issue.
I work hard every week to provide for my family, including health insurance. Why should I have to provide health insurance to other people who can't or won't buy health insurance on their own. Health insurance is not the answer to the health care cost problem. The real solution is to get rid of the insurance and let capitalism kick in. The market can only charge what people could afford to pay, and the insurance companies are the main reason why costs have ballooned over the years. As far as the SCHIP bill goes, it is just one more step in the attempt to socialize medicine in this country. We are not communists, we are Americans. MICHAEL BROWN Albany
As far as the SCHIP bill goes, it is just one more step in the attempt to socialize medicine in this country. We are not communists, we are Americans.
Good one here Michael!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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