To Mr. Sptizer, Blah, Blah, Blah, and by the way............BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!! How do you like that as a Republican response? Short, to the point, and even you should be able to understand it. Well maybe not, since it appears as though you can't grasp the term illegal.
To Mr. Sptizer, Blah, Blah, Blah, and by the way............BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!! How do you like that as a Republican response? Short, to the point, and even you should be able to understand it. Well maybe not, since it appears as though you can't grasp the term illegal.
WOW! Are we a little hot under the collar this morning?
New York has between 500,000 and 1 million undocumented immigrants, many of whom are driving without a license and car insurance or with fake driver’s licenses, Spitzer has said.
The Daily Gazette exhibits, once again, their liberal bias by avoiding the use of the adjective "illegal" to describe the immigrants in question choosing instead to describe them as "undocumented".
Mr. Spitzer's solution to the problem of immigrants who illegally entered the country and who reside in New York State is to reward them by granting to them the privileges and rights that are enjoyed by legal citizens of the United States. This is an insult to legal aliens, naturalized citizens, and to all whose ancestors came to this country through the legal channels.
I agree with BigK's thought that Mr. Spitzer's unilateral order to grant drivers licenses to illegal aliens and the support of the NYC Democratic officials who are quoted in the Daily Gazette results from their calculated assessment that they will secure the votes of the 500,000 to 1 million illegals who will subsequently be extended the rights (e.g., vote) and the entitled benefits (Welfare, medical care, etc.) and who will be beholdened to the government for their sustenance.
I agree with Rene that those who entered our nation by breaking its laws should be arrested and deported. Perhaps, as an unintended consequence of Mr. Spitzer's order, the identification and determination of the location of these illegal aliens will be facilitated.
I agree with Rene that those who entered our nation by breaking its laws should be arrested and deported. Perhaps, as an unintended consequence of Mr. Spitzer's order, the identification and determination of the location of these illegal aliens will be facilitated.
Either that or made more difficult once they say "I'm not illegal, heck, I even have my State issued Drivers License. How could I be here illegally?"
The democratic/liberal spin has always been of a 'bleeding heart' nature. I can not look upon these 'illegal' immigrants as I do regarding the immigrants of decades ago who came to this country 'legally' through Ellis Island and worked their a**es off and contributed to the tax base.
Like I have stated before...what group and or entity, told immigrants that the only way into this country was by crossing the boarders illegally. What the hell made them think they couldn't come in legally? So for that, I trust NONE of them and agree that they should be arrested and deported immediatly!! For our economic and personal safety!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Eloquent and intelligent debate does not seem to have an effect on the Governor. Hence my previous comment. Sometimes you just get sick and tired of selecting words and putting them together in an "acceptable" fashion when they are not heeded anyway.
5 million of our older Americans have not signed up yet for their Medicare, Part D, drug plan------they are old and confused. We are NOT going to grant them an extension.
However, 12 million illegal aliens are in our country and we are going to allow them to stay, protest, procreate, receive support monies, attend schools, avoid paying income taxes, have our teachers take 300 hours of ESL (English as a Second Language) training at our expense, etc.
WE MUST REALLY DISLIKE OUR OLD PEOPLE...... OR WE MUST REALLY LOVE TACOS!!!
Don't forget to pay your taxes......
12 million illegal aliens are depending on you!
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Maybe it's one of those fake---"you have just won the lottery show up at this hotel" sting.......like they do with crimminal roundups....
I want to see the line outside DMV---Do they just get the license or do they have take the 5 hour course, driving test etc.???? Can they get car insurance without a SS#??? That really would be the issue when something bad happened while driving($$ and responsibility), my mistake,, we have no-fault in NYS,,,now we have, 'not legal' or is it 'almost legal'??? And if they need to buy a car, do they need a SS# to register it, get a car loan etc.....
is Mr. Spitzer making this a vote through the capitalist system???....In which case if it does become the burden of capitalism to 'make the illegals-legal' or make sure you are who you are, this would become----No # = No service = national ID to get service.......I would say this is a form of insurance.....NYS drivers license is just the tip of the iceburg......
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Main Entry: 1in·sur·ance Pronunciation: in-'shur-&n(t)s also 'in-" Function: noun 1 a : the business of insuring persons or property b : coverage by contract whereby one party undertakes to indemnify or guarantee another against loss by a specified contingency or peril c : the sum for which something is insured 2 : a means of guaranteeing protection or safety
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
SCHENECTADY COUNTY GOP bill opposes Spitzer license plan Measure aims to block governor’s initiative BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter
Republicans in the Schenectady County Legislature proposed legislation Wednesday to prevent illegal aliens from getting drivers licenses in Schenectady County. The issue has sparked a revolt among county clerks and legislators across the state, many of them Republicans. Republicans in both the state Senate and Assembly said they would sue Gov. Eliot Spitzer to prevent his administrative policy change from taking effect. The Republican minority’s legislation would require the Schenectady County Clerk’s Office to follow state Vehicle and Traffi c Law rather than Spitzer’s directive, issued two weeks ago. Minority Leader Robert Farley, R-Glenville, said in a news release that the legislation “would simply direct our county clerk to simply follow the state law, as his constitutional oath prescribes, and thereby block this misguided directive of Governor Spitzer to give drivers licenses to illegal aliens.” County Legislature Susan Savage, D-Niskayuna, said Wednesday she has not seen the legislation, only heard of it. “It sounds interesting. I would be interested in knowing whether the county Legislature has the legal ability to take that action. I will certainly review it with other members of the county Legislature to get their input,” she said. Spitzer’s directive would give all New Yorkers the opportunity to apply for state driver licenses without regard to immigration status. Legislator Carolina Lazzari, RRotterdam, who introduced the legislation, said in a prepared statement, “This new proposed policy of Governor Spitzer is wrong on so many levels. It compromises our security, rewards illegal behavior, diminishes the identification value of our licenses, places undue financial and travel burdens on our citizens and opens the door to voter fraud.”
Legislator Carolina Lazzari, RRotterdam, who introduced the legislation, said in a prepared statement, “This new proposed policy of Governor Spitzer is wrong on so many levels. It compromises our security, rewards illegal behavior, diminishes the identification value of our licenses, places undue financial and travel burdens on our citizens and opens the door to voter fraud.”
To the support Mrs. Lazzari's contention re: voter fraud, I reviewed a voter registration form last evening. For identification purposes, the form requires that you either provide the last four digits of your social security # OR your driver's license #. Because illegal immigrants cannot (presently) obtain a legally valid SSN #, the issuance of a New York State driver's license legitimitizes their presense in our country and does, indeed, open the door to voter fraud.
Mr. Spitzer's decree will have all of the undesireable effects that Mrs. Lazzari and the Republicans cite. It also validates the right of these illegal aliens to reside in our nation, despite their violation of our laws to arrive here. Further, it will likely lead to their being granted the rights and extended the benefits that are currently afforded to citizens of New York State and the United States.
Mr. Spitzer must realize that, despite his assertions, this is not a partisan issue. There are many elected officials who are members of the Democratic party (e.g., Mayor Bloomberg, former Mayor Koch, Congresswoman Hillebrand) who have come out in opposition to the Governor's order. A recent survey reports that over 60% of New Yorkers oppose and 35% support the issuance of drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. Over 50% of those who identified themselves as Democrats are among the 60% who oppose the Governor's order. Mr. Spitzer must stop insulting those who oppose his policy as being "scared" or "selfish" and yield to the wishes of the people who he was elected to represent. BTW, this doesn't YET include the illegal aliens.
It still boils down to our bottom line for our liberty and posterity-----would a national ID card fix this?? We all know that there is always some politician/legislator who "opens the door" to certain issues,,,,they may not be the ones to own it in the end but, we must follow the thread.....Hillary and and national health care and Mitt Romney and a version of it.......THEY ALL EAT AT THE SAME TROUGH AND RUB ELBOWS......
A national ID card would make EVERYONE have to be 'legal'----fingerprints and all.....is that security, insurance etc?????
How far are we willing to go? Do we pay exorbitant amounts of $$ to have an 'illegal immigration team' every 500miles to just bust/scoop and deport/dump????
I say just get rid of the 'services' and let neighbor to neighbor do the helping.....no services, no free meal ticket---for EVERYONE, including the 'legals'.....
no food stamps no welfare no medicare no medicaid no star no unions etc etc........
if there is no 'free money' to be had then not everyone will come----it will just be those who seek freedom to make their way better.......and some crazies like we already have that are 'legal'.......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Do we all really think this is just Mr. Spitzer's hairbrained idea or that it's implications are only for the illegal immigrant problem?......there is a machine that is running.......
whatever happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness......all men are created equal......the shepherds are leading the sheep---to where??
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Carolina Lazzari was on WGY this morning discussing this issue. Her thoughts were aligned with the majority of NYS.
But what I found most interesting was when someone called into to the radio station and said they were by the Canadian border and picked up a Canadian radio talk show. They said that the Canadian people and government are very concerned as to the outcome of illegals getting drivers licenses. They are concerned that the illegals can then cross the border and enter their country.
There were other concerns with callers from NYS regarding illegals having access to purchasing guns after they aquire a drivers license.
Carolina Lazzari was on WGY this morning discussing this issue. Her thoughts were aligned with the majority of NYS.
But what I found most interesting was when someone called into to the radio station and said they were by the Canadian border and picked up a Canadian radio talk show. They said that the Canadian people and government are very concerned as to the outcome of illegals getting drivers licenses. They are concerned that the illegals can then cross the border and enter their country.
There were other concerns with callers from NYS regarding illegals having access to purchasing guns after they aquire a drivers license.
They are concerned that the illegals can then cross the border and enter their country.
I agree with much of this, but this point will be null and void in the future when we actually need passports to get across the border...except for the fact that your license is probably part of what you need for a passport. I don't know exactly what you do need to get one, though.
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