So, did Camelo tie into the sewer lines for the Dunkin Donuts - or is he using septic?
I can't figure out from the above posts whatever happened with that. Seems like it'd be hella hard to pump UP to the sewer plant, but I can't imagine they let him have septic there.

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So, did Camelo tie into the sewer lines for the Dunkin Donuts - or is he using septic?
I can't figure out from the above posts whatever happened with that. Seems like it'd be hella hard to pump UP to the sewer plant, but I can't imagine they let him have septic there.

I don't know, but good question. I thought there was a water problem in that area to begin with.

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I don't know, but good question. I thought there was a water problem in that area to begin with.

Something about an aquifer ... drainage ... ya, I think you're right.

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ROTTERDAM
IDA to enforce apartments’ PILOT penalty clause
Complex owners must pay debt by end of September
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    Long Pond Village has until the end of September to settle all outstanding debts on its payment-inlieu-of-taxes agreement, or face a potential dissolution of the 10-year agreement.
    Apartment complex owner CW Builders is required to pay $202,842 by Sept. 30, according to a forbearance agreement reached with the Rotterdam Industrial Development Agency last month. In total, the company will pay $46,401 in penalties and interest for not paying the full balance of the PILOT on time.
    As part of the forbearance agreement, the company waived any right to contest the amount owed. Ray Gillen, the county’s commissioner of economic development and planning, said the arrangement with Long Pond demonstrates the Rotterdam IDA’s resolve in holding companies accountable for their tax agreements in the town.
    “We are vigorously enforcing the PILOT and the penalty provisions,” he said Wednesday. “We have a signed agreement with the owners to enforce the penalty clause.”
    The firm only recently completed work on the 192-unit development and is awaiting certifi cates of occupancy on the fi nal two buildings finished last month. Aside from those buildings, Gillen said Long Pond Village has about 80 percent of its apartments leased.
    “They’re confident in their ability to lease out their remaining units,” he said.
    Under the original PILOT agreement ratified in September 2007, Long Pond Village was to pay full taxes on its 26 acres of West Campbell Road and only partially on its improvements, including eight three-story apartment buildings, six garages, a pool and a clubhouse. The company agreed to pay on half the assessed value of the improvements during the fi rst year of the agreement this year, with that amount increasing by 5 percent each subsequent year.
    Last year, Rotterdam valued the property at roughly $8.6 million. The land alone was assessed at $1.2 million.
    The PILOT agreement was reached during the tenure of former Rotterdam IDA chairman Art Brassard, who viewed it as a the final piece of financing needed to get the sprawling apartment complex built after years of delay. At the time, town officials were hoping the large-scale residential development would help reinvigorate the stalled commercial corridor along the West Campbell Road. ...............................>>>>.....................>>>>....................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00800&AppName=1

again check out http://www.rotterdamny.org

stewards?

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ROTTERDAM
New owner outlines big plans for former eyesore
Retail, offices for fitness firm proposed
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    Dave Leon’s first order of business after buying the former Main Florist property last year was to topple the eyesore sign that stood sentry over West Campbell Road for more than half a century.
    The dilapidated sign was the last remaining symbol of the former flower shop and was a fi tting symbol for a blighted property that remained an unsightly entrance to the town for nearly a decade. Leon, the owner of Planet Fitness, said it wasn’t long after he closed on the deal to purchase the property that he got a phone call from Supervisor Frank Del Gallo, who eagerly implored him to take it down.
    Now plans are afoot to fi nally redevelop the property into a more fitting gateway for the town. Leon has proposed a project that will create an Adirondack lodgestyle retail and office structure on the site that will serve as a business hub for his rapidly expanding chain of 15 gyms.
    “This will be a really nice freestanding building,” he said Friday.
    Plans call for a 12,000-squarefoot building that will feature retail spots for a gun shop, laundromat, bank and beauty salon, in addition to 3,100 square feet of office space on the second fl oor. A second phase of the project would construct an adjoining building that would include an additional 9,000 square feet.
    The building would be connected to the town sewer line and extend the sidewalks to connect with the ones in front of the adjacent Dunkin Donuts building. Plans also include 115 parking spaces and curb cuts onto West Campbell Road.
    Leon said the offi ce space will provide training and conference space for Planet Fitness so the business can grow. He plans to open two new locations next year and expand to 25 locations within three years.
    “This will be the headquarters,” he said.
    The three acres proposed for the project are on a sensitive area of the Great Flats Aquifer recharge zone. The plans have already been subject to both state and county review.
    Members of the town Planning Commission began reviewing the project in late October. So far, Leon’s plans have received a favorable response
    “It was very positively received by the town,” said Town Planner Peter Comenzo. ........................>>>>.............................>>>>.........................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01302&AppName=1

Haven't seen the detailed plan -- but from what is written -- I would be leaning towards a favorable opinion of the project.   Need to see more details.

Maybe they could build the new CVS down there, too.

Not in agreement with this plan....on the aquifer....there is too much built on that part of the W Campbell Rd already...

after the last storm and flooding, I would think that would abandon anything like this being built....there is a fitness

gym across from the Mall already.....

Condos are not in the best spot either....apartments, .....

Find another area.....further West.....


And that area has had flood problems for years.....

Save the aquifer.....

First....the plan looks good!

Second....as far as the aquifer........there is already 'petroleum based roads' all around the aquifer that get salted in the winter and repatched in the spring. There is a mall, apts, BJ's etc.....and a gas station and car wash up hill of it.

Not to mention that Main Florist probably used chemicals to sustain their plants back in the day. And GE is historically know for dumping chemicals 'wherever' back in the day. So the aquifer has already been compromised.

Looks nice! Just hope they don't use taxpayer's money to fund the project and they aren't given a tax exemption status or PILOT

Good thoughts BT,,  but wrongs don't make it right....

,and  more business in that area will definitely create a bottleneck......have you ever gone to DD and then can't get

back out to go home???

   a nightmare...just like Curry Rd....Altamont Ave have become.....out towards the Thruway 25A....that's where concentration

of business should be considered....

can't wait for you know who's comment...

I think it looks like a good idea. The past owner fertilized and used pesticides there. This is an improvement.

Good idea....keep your cvs on yhe east side

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ROTTERDAM
Land owner says sewer fee stalls work on development
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Justin Mason at 395-3113 or jmason@dailygazette.net.

    Last minute wrangling over a sewer fee has stalled the long awaited redevelopment of the former Main Florist property.
    Planet Fitness owner Dave Leon said the town wants to charge him $15,000 to connect his proposed 12,000-square-foot building to the trunk line on West Campbell Road and has suggested he could pay far more when the sewage pumping station near the Rotterdam Square mall needs a forthcoming upgrade. He said the new flap came just as he was preparing to move forward with the development and has lead to another holdup in a line of delays he’s faced since proposing the plan last year.
    “This is in the last minute of the eleventh hour,” said the visibly irate business owner after voicing his displeasure to the Town Board last week. “This building might get built next year, but not now.”
    Leon said the town has asked him to pay an equal share of the pumping station upgrade as the other three users. Yet two of the other three users — 192-unit Long Pond Village and Rotterdam Square — have sewage demands that far exceed the ones proposed in his building.
    “We’ve got only three bathrooms,” he said.
    As a result, Leon said he’s lost some of the tenants he had hoped to include in the project. He said the hair salon and bank that had agreed to lease space in the building both pulled out because he hasn’t gotten a shovel in the ground in the originally stipulated time frame.
    Leon said he’s perplexed by the slow progress he’s faced since proposing the project, considering that he’s planning to place the headquarters of Planet Fitness and upward of 30 full-time jobs in the building. He said the town should be eager to advance the project, especially since it’s on a site that has remained vacant for years.
    “This should be a home run for the town,” he said.
    Rotterdam officials acknowledged they’re negotiating with Leon and are confident they’ll be able to work out a deal that is amenable to him and the other users of the town-owned sewer line. Supervisor Harry Buffardi agreed that Leon shouldn’t be required to pay for a quarter of the pump station upgrade, but said the town needs to figure out how to best apportion the cost.
    “I have full confidence we’ll be able to work this out,” he said. “What he wants with it — and I don’t disagree — is something that is based on use.”
    Main Florist went out of business in 1999 and the property quickly fell into decay. Demolition crews removed most of the business in February 2007, but a project to redevelop the land into a retail building and restaurant went inactive amid the national economic downturn.
    The property then became a haven for illegal dumpers. Several rusted dumpsters left over from the demolition remained on the site for several years until the town threatened legal action against then-owner Frank Popolizio.
    Leon closed on the property in February 2010 and almost immediately cleared the remaining debris from the property. The site now remains among the last of the vacant commercial lots near the West Campbell Road exit off Interstate 890.
    The added connections to the sewer, however, have taxed a pumping station that was originally constructed to accommodate the mall nearly three decades ago. Public Works coordinator Vince Romano said the pumping station ultimately needs to be upgraded to handle the additional users, but wasn’t sure what the work will cost. ......................>>>>...............................>>>>...........................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01602&AppName=1

Perhaps they will just offset his 'donation' to the treatment plant with a great tax excemption. That's how ROTTENdam does things, right?
It's gotta be.....remember that METROPLEX/GILLEN is in ROTTENdam now!!

How efficient and smart government is. Fair too. Of course it has NOTHING to do with Leon being a supporter of Del Gallo in the last election. I am sure.

He should go to the FBI with what they are trying to do to him, changing the rules and fees like that, 'just because.' Maybe some of the crooks will have light shown on them.