Senders, most of them are attorneys and belong to firms. That's why they make the LAW-yers!
As far as this Kosiurs sex offender law, I still stand that it should be rescinded and the counties, including the county legislatures, should collectively, in a bipartisan manner, let the assembly know the general concensus of the people is the passage of Jessica's law.
But may I say that sex offenders is just one issue that the city of Schenectady has to deal with. What about the drug dealers? You can read the paper on any give day and there are numerous articles where drugs and crime are involved. The problem has been an obvious problem within their own police dept. There are no provisions for drug dealers, and yet they have crossed county/city lines and we are now dealing with them in Rotterdam. Altamont Ave, Crane Street, parts of Hamburg St and Curry Road.
So the sex offender issue is just the tip of the iceberg. The garbage from the city is overflowing into Rotterdam. They clearly need to get a grip with that city and get it under control. And I would hope that our county legislatures would try to do something to prevent this 'overflow'.
And another thing...why do we have county legislatures? Rotterdam has Joe Suhrada and Carolina Lazzari, and what have they actually done? What CAN they get done. NOTHING! We pay them and yet they accomplish nothing. Listen people, as long as we continue to have this democratic dictatorship in the legislature, we might as well have no representation at all. Our representatives are not even allowed to be involved in some critical issues that effect all of us. We need change!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Rene, I think you and Z2im (in the future to be referenced as ZIM in my posts) both have made some wonderful points here.
Also, Shadow stated to get Mr. Tedisco, Mr. Amedore and Mr. Farley on with the pushing forward of Jessica's Law.
Have you thought about (or followed through on) sending this list of signatures that you had from Duanesburg directly to these gentlemen? Maybe with this, it could start to be additional pressure not only on these gentlemen, but the rest of the Republican party (and Cicero, I say the Republican party only because all these gentlemen are part of that party...) and possibly others, Democrats and Independants alike, to start pushing this forward on the state level?
I would use the facts that Z put in here, stating that although that number of signatures on a state level is very small, in the town that this survey was taken from, it was seriously quite the majority of people who honestly support a law like this.
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There are approx. 4800 registered voters in the Town of Duanesburg. Thus, the 750 represents over 15% of the voters in our town. As one who obtained signatures on petitions, I will state that, given more time, we could have collected minimally 75.5% of the signatures of the town residents (as that is the % who supported Mr. Amedore in the election) and, more likely 98% based on the refusal of only 2 individuals of the 135 from whom I obtained signatures.
And as I have shown a few times throughout this website, I think that we really have to speak out to the ENTIRE legislature for change, and I think ZIM had a great paragraph, with just a little tweaking could be the beginning of a great letter to all of the Senators and Assembly members.
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We invite you to join the Republicans, Democrats and Independents, led by our elected representatives, to enact effective and legal legislation to protect our families from the threat that sex offenders, both repeat and first time offenders, pose to our communities. And, you can begin by urging State Assembly Leader Sheldon Silver to allow Jessica's Law to come before the Assembly for an up or down vote.
That is exactly my plan. I am going to bring this up when I speak with the other Supervisors next week. I have burned many bridges on the County Leg but I'm hoping I can get them to help. We all agree the law needs to be addressed on a state level so lets do what we can to accomplish that. At a meeting with Sue Savage a couple of weeks ago I asked her what we would have to do to get the state to pay attention? She said all the counties in the sate would have to pass laws simultaneously So lets get all the counties involved. ZIM can be the science and I will be the art.
She said all the counties in the sate would have to pass laws simultaneously
Oh I don't know about this one Suzie. I'll have to check into this one. I doubt very much that this law must pass simultaneously. And IF that were the case, the other approx 42 states, clearly had no problem passing Jessica's law. Again, I may be wrong here, but I have heard Suzie come out with other statements before that were not true. Funny, but NY implemented Megan's law, where all sex offenders were required to be registered. This state passes laws left and right that effect each city, town or village. Why would this one be any different?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
To BK TeeHee. I seriously have no intention of running for the county. My heart is in D'burg. To Bumble I thought she was trying to be helpful in all fairness.
Does recinding the "Kosiur" law make anybody safer? This was a politicized issue to make county democrats look bad. Were the 750 names on the petition really concerned that crazed sex offenders were going to now purchase houses in Duanesburg and prey on their children?? What's the average house go for in Duanesburg?? $200,000+. I can picture it now, groves of sex offenders moving out of their 1 bedroom apartments in Mont Pleasant, and head to the country to buy a 3 bedroom 1.5 bath, on a 2.5 acre lot. In a few weeks this issue with sex offenders will fade to the point it was at prior to the special election. Because we all know if this law was passed in January of this year, and there was no race of the 105th, the general public wouldn't even know who Ed Kosiur was, or the law that he sponsered.
As far as I am concerned NO LAW makes us safer....We are not to drive while drunk but it doesn't stop folks from doing it.....WHAT IS THE BITE IN THE LAW....we all say the punishment should fit the crime----WELL......"a man looks into a mirror and sees himself, turns away and forgets straight away what he looks like".........
We cant decide if a level 1,2,or 3 sex offender/predator is a mental disorder or not.....here's my thing if you rape, murder, assault--touch another person it is a mental disorder with action......I am thinking that is someone touched my kid, it would be followed by my own 'mental disorder' and I would personally put my hands around their neck......
but where is the BITE IN THE LAW.......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
This was a politicized issue to make county democrats look bad. Were the 750 names on the petition really concerned that crazed sex offenders were going to now purchase houses in Duanesburg and prey on their children??
It is a possibility. Remember, Rotterdam right now is having all these multiple family residential housing projects coming up. How long do you think until it's decided that these people have no place else to go so they find these types of muliple family houses to live in together? These people need to go somewhere else, since they can't stay in the city after 10/1.
What's the average house go for in Duanesburg?? $200,000+. I can picture it now, groves of sex offenders moving out of their 1 bedroom apartments in Mont Pleasant, and head to the country to buy a 3 bedroom 1.5 bath, on a 2.5 acre lot.
In a few weeks this issue with sex offenders will fade to the point it was at prior to the special election.
If there's people who don't care about it (whether they have children or not) and people don't keep telling the county board that this law is just wrong, then yes, it will fade eventually, but we can never me sure what's going on anymore.
Because we all know if this law was passed in January of this year, and there was no race of the 105th, the general public wouldn't even know who Ed Kosiur was, or the law that he sponsered.
I absolutely disagree.
First of all, yes, this was an election ploy to get votes and it backfired. Second, it's not the only thing that didn't get him elected. I think that Mr. Amedore had multiple thigs that he was saying he would actually do when he got to Albany. Mr. Kosiur's only thing was "look what I did with the sex offendor law."
Second of all, if anybody in Schenectady County doesn't remember who he is, they better look out for the people that he sent around them, especially if they live outside the "safe zones," although, as I have previously stated, these "safe zones" are nothing more than places where thy can't stay, not places they can't prey. Like supervisor Tommasone has stated several times, drawing circles on a map does nothing to protect the children.
As a side note, it's it funny/sad that the U.S. can't deport all the illegal aliens, but the city of Schenectady finally found a way to deport their sex offendors? Maybe we should send THEM to Mexico.
Because we all know if this law was passed in January of this year, and there was no race of the 105th, the general public wouldn't even know who Ed Kosiur was, or the law that he sponsered.
I agree and disagree
The fear based sex offender discussions have been going on since 'the media' began hyping it up and the governments began their little platform dances on it....the fact is it has been going on for thousands of years--they are called hormones, social allowance, social tittlation, money making etc etc.....we are no more suave at dealing with it now than we were back then...but, a civilized society has laws with BITE in them....not compassion......
Like 'hate crimes'---what the heck is that supposed to mean....a rapist is committing a hate crime(no regard for human life/liberty etc) it doen't matter what the color/ethnicity/sexual orientation is.......we give shiny new names without regard to the meanings.....kind of like advertisers.....
Thanks to the lawmakers.....NYS is the only state in the union where the appellate court is the highest court.....NYS is the tester for society and what we accept and choose to challenge.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Yes, the people who live in the neighborhoods that the sex offendors would be "deported" to.
Would you agree that there is a higher concentration of children in the city of Schenectady, along with more schools, daycare centers, and parks where children would be? Wouldn't you say it's logical to keep sex offenders away from the highest concentration of children as possible? Especially in places where an adult may lose track a child because the amount of children they're supervising.
And sex offenders are not being deported, they are resricted from living within 2000 ft of an area were children gather. So if I am reading you correctly, you don't care that sex offenders are living near the 1000's children in the city of Schenectady, as long as they're not near the 100's of kid near you.
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It is a possibility. Remember, Rotterdam right now is having all these multiple family residential housing projects coming up. How long do you think until it's decided that these people have no place else to go so they find these types of muliple family houses to live in together? These people need to go somewhere else, since they can't stay in the city after 10/1.
Maybe things have changed in Duanesburg, but last time I went out there I didn't see many apartment complexes, condo's, or multi-families. As a matter of fact, I think there's a 2 or 3 acre minimum to build a single family home. Development is frowned upon in Duanesburg.
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I don't know what the hell that means
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If there's people who don't care about it (whether they have children or not) and people don't keep telling the county board that this law is just wrong, then yes, it will fade eventually, but we can never me sure what's going on anymore.
I've been on this forum for a long time, and I don't recall this issue ever being raised until this special election. I never even knew there was a problem with repeat sex offenders in Schenectady County. Not on the local news, our local papers,,,,It was no place.
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I absolutely disagree.
First of all, yes, this was an election ploy to get votes and it backfired. Second, it's not the only thing that didn't get him elected. I think that Mr. Amedore had multiple thigs that he was saying he would actually do when he got to Albany. Mr. Kosiur's only thing was "look what I did with the sex offendor law."
Second of all, if anybody in Schenectady County doesn't remember who he is, they better look out for the people that he sent around them, especially if they live outside the "safe zones," although, as I have previously stated, these "safe zones" are nothing more than places where thy can't stay, not places they can't prey. Like supervisor Tommasone has stated several times, drawing circles on a map does nothing to protect the children.
Is there any logic to the "safe zone"? Isn't the "safe zone" areas designated places where there are high concentrations of children at certain times of the day and certain times of the year? If in these safe zones there is an average of say 300 minor in that area in a given day,,,and areas outside the safe zones there is say 50 minors in a given day,,,what area would you attempt to keep a sex offender away from?
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As a side note, it's it funny/sad that the U.S. can't deport all the illegal aliens, but the city of Schenectady finally found a way to deport their sex offendors? Maybe we should send THEM to Mexico.
It's funny how Rene is concened about the rights of sex offenders, when we have many laws that effect the rights of criminals. Like the fact that felons cannot vote...even after serving their time. Felons cannot own firearms....I believe that is a second ammendment right. Keeping sex offenders away from children would be similar to keep guns away from violent felons, or a drivers licence from a repeat DWI offender. It would be the next logical thing to do.
All I know is whether Duanesuburg can house sex offenders or not is not a major issue for me as I reside in Rotterdam. Isn't it surprising though, to have a supervisor probably with less a chance of any surrounding county to house sex offenders, take the initiative to communicate with her constituants and be the only one to obtain signatures for a petition opposing the law. Instead of just holding meetings, she actually got out to gain signatures in an attempt to keep her town and residents safe. She was doing her job. Wow, what a concept!
I have actally talked to some folks who live in Duanesburg, who said that Rene Merrihew, herself, was at their door with a petition to sign. When was the last time you saw Tomasone, Paolino, Signore or Constantino do that? They leave it up to the residents. Ms. Merrihew took on the leadership role that is required and expected of all elected officials.
This clearly was NOT a political issue for Rene Merrihew. She acted out of her love for her town and for maintaining as safe an environment that she could.
A lesson to be learned by all supervisors and county legislatures.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
You know why I believe this was completely political? Because after reading Rene Merrihews posts, I realize that her inellegence wouldn't lead her to believe that he passage of the "Kosiur Law" would be a real threat to her towns people. Knowing the zoning laws and property values of Duanesburg, she had to know that there was no real threat of sex offenders who live in the city of Schenectady migrating to Duanesburg October 1st, when the law will begin to be enforced.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I do not recall any commercials or literature handed out by the Kosiur camp during the campaign stating that he was going to keep your kids safe because of the law he sponsered(Kosiur Law). But I do recall the republicans attacking the legislation for there political gain during the special election.
You know why I believe this was completely political? Because after reading Rene Merrihews posts, I realize that her inellegence wouldn't lead her to believe that he passage of the "Kosiur Law" would be a real threat to her towns people. Knowing the zoning laws and property values of Duanesburg, she had to know that there was no real threat of sex offenders who live in the city of Schenectady migrating to Duanesburg October 1st, when the law will begin to be enforced.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I do not recall any commercials or literature handed out by the Kosiur camp during the campaign stating that he was going to keep your kids safe because of the law he sponsered(Kosiur Law). But I do recall the republicans attacking the legislation for there political gain during the special election.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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