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There's a few more reasons other than man made global warming that could also be heating the oceans like the sun, under sea volcanoes, and an El Nino that's very strong this year.
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How about a usual event every 10million years or so.......time to jump to another 'rock'.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Truth is, science on global warming still up in the air

    Despite recent polls showing public opinion for global warming melting away, the climate crisis industry continues in fullthroated swing. Recent news reports state calamities from climate change make it a national security threat. The same claims of mass migrations and mass starvations were made in the 1970s. The culprit then was the coming Ice Age!
    On Aug. 11, U.S. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon spoke about the “grave climate change threat,” and warned “we have just four months to secure the future of our planet.” That could put a big dent in the Christmas shopping season!
    New York Gov. David Paterson jumped into the fray with an executive order to cut greenhouse gas emissions. In a Gazette article [Aug. 7] headlined, “Paterson order sets emissions goal,” the governor hopes to reduce CO2 [carbon dioxide] emissions, “the chief culprit of global warming.” Guess he hasn’t talked to climatologist Piers Corbyn who says in the BBC documentary, The Great Global Warming Swindle, “The sun is driving climate change. CO2 is irrelevant.”
    Paterson’s chief environmental officer, Judith Enck, assures us that the global warming debate is over, an oft-repeated mantra of global warmers. Don’t tell Dr. Claude Allegre, one of the most celebrated scientists in France. Twenty years ago, he was a believer but now says global warming is “over hyped, with no basis for saying the science is settled.”
    Just one scientist’s revised opinion, right? Wait, there’s the 60 German scientists who issued a public letter on July 26 stating global warming has become a “pseudo religion” and rising CO2 has had “no measurable effect” on global temperatures.
    If that’s not enough dissent from academia for you, then consider the more than 31,000 American scientists who have signed onto the petition project started by Dr. Frederick Seitz, past president of the U.S. National Academy of Science. The information can be viewed at www.oism. org, and you’ll see the debate on global warming is far from over.

TIMOTHY J. HORAN
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Global warming or not, lifestyle changes are OK

    As a skeptic and no fan of Al Gore, I have a question for people [like Timothy Horan, Aug. 22 letter] echoing the fossil fuel industry-funded climate-change deniers.
    If we live frugally, insulate, use the free sun and wind around us, enjoy a bus or train, share a ride with a friend, bike and walk in our neighborhood, vacation regionally, eat fresh, local fruits and veggies, support our local economy, and the majority of independent climate scientists are wrong about our overuse of fossil fuel disrupting the climate, what is the downside? We still have healthier, richer people in strong resilient communities and no kids sent off to fight for oil.
    If there is even a 20 percent chance that climate scientists are right, and perhaps we avert some of the worst climate disruption for our children, we will have healthy peaceful, sustainable communities better able to cope with the future.
    I suggest we stop beating this dead horse [or any horse, for that matter] and move on to mitigation and adaptation. Let’s transition to a cleaner, more enjoyable win/win future for all.

    PETER LOOKER
    Ballston Lake


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Pete, what is wrong is most of us don't want the green movement telling us how to live our lives, people will do what's right because it's the right thing to do not because you force us to.
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U.S. Northeast May Have Coldest Winter in a Decade
By Todd Zeranski and Erik Schatzker

Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Northeast may have the coldest winter in a decade because of a weak El Nino, a warming current in the Pacific Ocean, according to Matt Rogers, a forecaster at Commodity Weather Group.

“Weak El Ninos are notorious for cold and snowy weather on the Eastern seaboard,” Rogers said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Washington. “About 70 percent to 75 percent of the time a weak El Nino will deliver the goods in terms of above-normal heating demand and cold weather. It’s pretty good odds.”

Warming in the Pacific often means fewer Atlantic hurricanes and higher temperatures in the U.S. Northeast during January, February and March, according to the National Weather Service. El Nino occurs every two to five years, on average, and lasts about 12 months, according to the service.

Hedge-fund managers and other large speculators increased their net-long positions, or bets prices will rise, in New York heating oil futures in the week ended Sep. 22, according to U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission data Sept. 25.

“It could be one of the coldest winters, or the coldest, winter of the decade,” Rogers said..................>>>>.......................>>>>..............http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=amm7GJfWypJE#
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thank God oil/gas prices are lower than last year.........so far!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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until we find out what the dollar will be worth


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Very little can be done about global warming

    I believe Jay Spivack’s Dec. 20 op-ed column [“Increase of carbon dioxide in air is real, and so are its effects”] concerning aspects of so-called “global warming” potentially misleads the reader in a number of ways — including the fact that he does not amply report on all the effects of volcanoes.
    The word “volcanoes” occurs only once in his text as a minor reference, and thus by further omission he conveniently fails to note their true impact. For example, a recent report by scientists funded by the National Science Foundation and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration concerning the current eruptions of the West Mata volcano noted, among other things, that the volcano “is producing boninite lavas, believed to be among the hottest on earth in modern times, and a type seen before only on extinct volcanoes more than 1 million years old.”
    They also go on to say that “Water from the volcano is very acidic, with some samples collected directly above the eruption ... as acidic as battery acid or stomach acid.” According to their findings, “The scientists believe that 80 percent of eruptive activity on earth takes place in the ocean, and that most volcanoes are in the deep sea. Further study of active deep-ocean eruptions will provide a better understanding of oceanic cycles of carbon dioxide and sulfur gases, how heat and matter are transferred from the interior of the earth to its surface, and how life adapts to some of the harshest conditions on earth.”
    What I take away from this is that the bulk of the real truth about so-called “global warming” can literally be found right under our own feet. Thus, we are ill-advised to spend money that we don’t have on something that, in the end, we cannot control. The inexorable warming (and acidification) of the earth’s atmosphere and oceans will play out its course whether we like it or not, because there’s more heat (and acid) constantly spewing our way that is already buried inside the earth than man can ever produce by burning things on its surface.
    Hence, the reckless politicians and do-gooders should expend their energies on improving humankind’s lot by dealing with the hand we are dealt with by, for example, bending to the task of reining in population growth and fi guring out how to grow food on less land with less water — instead of sending us sound bites from Copenhagen.

    RICHARD FELAK
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Richard is right the government can do very little to stop global warming but what little they can do will be extremely expensive for all who have to pay for it.
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Science News
No Rise of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Fraction in Past 160 Years, New Research Finds

ScienceDaily (Dec. 31, 2009) — Most of the carbon dioxide emitted by human activity does not remain in the atmosphere, but is instead absorbed by the oceans and terrestrial ecosystems. In fact, only about 45 percent of emitted carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere.

However, some studies have suggested that the ability of oceans and plants to absorb carbon dioxide recently may have begun to decline and that the airborne fraction of anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions is therefore beginning to increase.

Many climate models also assume that the airborne fraction will increase. Because understanding of the airborne fraction of carbon dioxide is important for predicting future climate change, it is essential to have accurate knowledge of whether that fraction is changing or will change as emissions increase.

To assess whether the airborne fraction is indeed increasing, Wolfgang Knorr of the Department of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol reanalyzed available atmospheric carbon dioxide and emissions data since 1850 and considers the uncertainties in the data.

In contradiction to some recent studies, he finds that the airborne fraction of carbon dioxide has not increased either during the past 150 years or during the most recent five decades.

The research is published in Geophysical Research Letters.
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Global Warming in Last 15 Years Insignificant, U.K.'s Top Climate Scientist Admits

The embattled ex-head of the research center at the heart of the Climate-gate scandal dropped a bombshell over the weekend, admitting in an interview with the BBC that there has been no global warming over the past 15 years.


The embattled ex-head of the research center at the heart of the Climate-gate scandal dropped a bombshell over the weekend, admitting in an interview with the BBC that there has been no global warming over the past 15 years.

Phil Jones, former head of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, made a number of eye-popping statements to the BBC's climate reporter on Sunday. Data from CRU, where Jones was the chief scientist, is key evidence behind the claim that the growth of cities (which are warmer than countryside) isn't a factor in global warming and was cited by the U.N.'s climate science body to bolster statements about rapid global warming in recent decades.

Jones's latest statements seemed to contradict the CRU's data.

In response to the question, "do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically significant global warming?", Jones said yes, adding that the average increase of 0.12C per year over that time period "is quite close to the significance level. ................>>>>..........>>>>..............http://www.foxnews.com/scitech.....s-climate-scientist/
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Who was the liberal Democrat clown who wrote that dumb letter today in the paper. The gazette editors are still holding fast to the "man-made global warming" scam too, because they see it as a justification to raise taxes on the middle class.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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If there wasn't climate change, the dinosaurs would still be here and we wouldn't!!! It's a natural process!  DUH!


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I wonder if Al Gore has ever looked through a telescope?.....This planet will do what it does regardless of US.....can we make our living space a living mess, sure......Does he believe in evolution or adaptation
or Adam/Eve.....either way he must realize how insignificant we are, albeit slobs, but small just the same......


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