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Libertarian4life
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Countries that provide Universal Health Care

Pretty much, everyone except the US, China and most of Africa.

The US and China are the 2 richest countries on Earth.



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Take note that Iraq and Afghanistan have universal health coverage provided by US war funding.




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Quoted from Libertarian4life
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Countries that provide Universal Health Care

Pretty much, everyone except the US, China and most of Africa.

The US and China are the 2 richest countries on Earth.





Actually, to correct one thing wrong with this picture, the US should be in that bright green.  Attempting to have National Coverage, per the key.


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Quoted from Libertarian4life
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Countries that provide Universal Health Care

Pretty much, everyone except the US, China and most of Africa.

The US and China are the 2 richest countries on Earth.


I'm trying to figure out the connection between the wealth of a nation and compulsory health insurance?  Wouldn't your pictorgrams be an argument against compulsory health insurance since nations are less wealthy that have it?

Saudi Arabia has Universal Health Care, public stonings and honor killings.  Let's be like Saudi Arabia, they are great, they have Universal Health Care.


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The Worlds Greatest Debtor Nations


20. United States - 101.1%
External debt (as % of GDP): 101.1%
Gross external debt: $14.825 trillion
2009 GDP (est): $14.66 trillion
External debt per capita: $48,258

19. Hungary - 120.1%
External debt (as % of GDP): 120.1%

Gross external debt: $225.24 billion

2009 GDP (est): $187.6 billion

External debt per capita: $22,739

18. Australia – 138.9%
External debt (as % of GDP): 138.9%

Gross external debt: $1.23 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $882.4 billion

External debt per capita: $57,641

17. Italy – 146.6%
External debt (as % of GDP): 146.6%

Gross external debt: $2.602 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $1.77 trillion

External debt per capita: $44,760

16. Spain – 179.4%
External debt (as % of GDP): 179.4%

Gross external debt: $2.46 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $1.37 trillion

External debt per capita: $60,614

15. Greece – 182.2%
External debt (as % of GDP): 182.2%

Gross external debt: $579.7 billion
2010 GDP (est): $318.1 billion

External debt per capita: $53,984

14. Germany – 185.1%
External debt (as % of GDP): 185.1%

Gross external debt: $5.44 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $2.94 trillion

External debt per capita: $51,572

13. Portugal - 223.6%
External debt (as % of GDP): 223.6%

Gross external debt: $552.23 billion
2010 GDP (est): $247 billion

External debt per capita: $51,572

12. France – 250%
External debt (as % of GDP): 250%

Gross external debt: $5.37 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $2.15 trillion

External debt per capita: $83,781

11. Hong Kong – 250.4%
External debt (as % of GDP): 250.4%

Gross external debt: $815.65 billion
2010 GDP (est): $325.8 billion

External debt per capita: $115,612

10. Norway – 251%
External debt (as % of GDP): 251%

Gross external debt: $640.7 billion
2010 GDP (est): $255.3 billion

External debt per capita: $137,476

9. Austria – 261.1%
External debt (as % of GDP): 261.1%

Gross external debt: $867.14 billion
2010 GDP (est): $332 billion

External debt per capita: $105,616

8. Finland – 271.5%
External debt (as % of GDP): 271.5%

Gross external debt: $505.06 billion
2010 GDP (est): $186 billion

External debt per capita: $96,197

7. Sweden – 282.2%
External debt (as % of GDP): 282.2%

Gross external debt: $1.001 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $354.7 billion

External debt per capita: $110,479

6. Denmark – 310.4%
External debt (as % of GDP): 310.4%

Gross external debt: $626.1 billion
2010 GDP (est): $201.7 billion
External debt per capita: $113,826

5. Belgium – 335.9%
External debt (as % of GDP): 335.9%

Gross external debt: $1.324 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $394.3 billion
External debt per capita: $127,197

4. Netherlands – 376.3%
External debt (as % of GDP): 376.3%
Gross external debt: $2.55 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $676.9 billion
External debt per capita: $152,380

3. Switzerland – 401.9%
External debt (as % of GDP): 401.9%

Gross external debt: $1.304 trillion

2010 GDP (est): $324.5 billion
External debt per capita: $171,528

2. United Kingdom – 413.3%
External debt (as % of GDP): 413.3%

Gross external debt: $8.981 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $2.173 trillion
External debt per capita: $146,953

1. Ireland – 1,382%
External debt (as % of GDP): 1,382%
Gross external debt: $2.38 trillion
2010 GDP (est): $172.3 billion
External debt per capita: $566,756


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Actually, to correct one thing wrong with this picture, the US should be in that bright green.  Attempting to have National Coverage, per the key.


I would have to disagree. Obamacara is not universal national health care coverage. It is mandatory private insurance, with some government health coverage for seniors and the poor.

Even Medicare is a poor version of health care.

All the other industrialized nations of the world cover everyone. You can retire at any age.

The US is 3 times richer than any other nation and can't take care of it's own people.

The US are the world leaders in putting citizens in prison.


The U.S. spends more than any other nation -- $60 billion a year -- to house inmates, but sees little good as a result, a bipartisan panel says.
by Jenifer Warren

SACRAMENTO — Americans spend $60 billion a year to imprison 2.2 million people ... a recidivism rate of more than 60%,

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Covering everyone is cheaper than having a corporate mandated exclusionary system.


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Covering everyone is cheaper than having a corporate mandated exclusionary system.


Cheaper for who?  If I have to pay for someone else for them to have "cheaper," then it's not really cheaper for me, right?


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It's an argument that can't be won based on reality, by the anti health care retards.

The world does it for everyone and it's cheaper per person than the US by far.

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Cheaper for who?  If I have to pay for someone else for them to have "cheaper," then it's not really cheaper for me, right?


So you favor a system of favoritism and exclusion because of your "only me" attitude.

If its half as much to have universal coverage, it will be cheaper for you. Unless you don't pay taxes.

The people without insurance have been paid by you already by your taxes.



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So you favor a system of favoritism and exclusion because of your "only me" attitude.

If its half as much to have universal coverage, it will be cheaper for you. Unless you don't pay taxes.

The people without insurance have been paid by you already by your taxes.





...says the Liberatarian... that wants to liberate my money from me to pay for others.

I favor a system of you get what you pay for (or you get what you work for).  IF it's half as much to have universal coverage?  I would like to see that.  Show me that if everybody has coverage, it will only cost me half.  Not projections, actual fact.


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