Under NHS guidance introduced across England to help doctors and medical staff deal with dying patients, they can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.
It's done here everyday, everywhere......does anyone know why?.....go ahead take a guess.......one reason a patient receives 'sedation' is so the family/friends dont have to see/hear them babble or squirm.....it makes them uncomfortable and being close to that is uncomfortable if one is not exposed to it on a daily basis.....
the biggest question---"Cant you give them something?"........"do you think they will die soon?"
I see it all the time.....is the patient dying?-I dont know,,,pain, comfort, dreams, regrets, wishes etc are all subjective......sometimes the patient just wants to talk,,,,,,and no one wants to listen........
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Putting the government in charge of your health insurance
THE PRESIDENT: You will not be waiting in any lines. This is not about putting the government in charge of your health insurance.
And yet section 3103 of the Senate HELP Committee bill would give the Secretary of Health and Human Services authority to appoint a Medical Advisory Council that would determine what items and services are “essential” for a “qualified health plan,” and, by implication, which benefits are not essential. The House bill is parallel but less specific, creating an “independent public/private advisory committee,” in which the members are chosen by the government. In both cases, the recommendations would be packaged together and approved or disapproved en bloc by the Executive Branch and Congress.
These bills would give government officials, or people chosen by the government, authority to determine benefit packages, copayments and deductibles, relative premiums, as well as health plan expenses and profits. They would, in effect, turn health insurance into a utility, run by private companies, but with policies and rates set by the government. While privately-owned firms would be implementing the decisions, the key decisions would be made by government officials or people chosen by government officials.
THE PRESIDENT: I don’t think government bureaucrats should be meddling, but I also don’t think insurance company bureaucrats should be meddling. That’s the health care system I believe in.
Resources are constrained, and so someone has to make the cost-benefit decision, either by creating a rule or making decisions on a case-by-case basis. Many of those decisions are now made by insurers and employers. The House and Senate bills would move some of those decisions into the government. Changing the locus of the decision does not relax the resource constraint. It just changes who has power and control.
The health care system I believe in moves no more decisions into the hands of the government, and instead creates incentives for people to control more of these decisions and make these hard tradeoffs for themselves. Insurance would evolve from pre-paid medical care, as it is today for many, to a more traditional catastrophic protection model, as we now have for other kinds of insurance.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I guess i'm in the other half! I'd perfer a sewer as i know nothing about septics, but on inspection the inspector told us 1000 gallon concrete tank that will outlive us all.. hope that he's telling the truth, lol
I don't spell check! Sorry... If you include "No offense" in a statement, chances are, your statement is offensive.
That's the same type of septic system that I have and no problems in 30 years as long as you get your tank pumped out every 3 to 4 years or the leach field will fill up with solids and need to be replaced.
I guess i'm in the other half! I'd perfer a sewer as i know nothing about septics, but on inspection the inspector told us 1000 gallon concrete tank that will outlive us all.. hope that he's telling the truth, lol
maybe it depends on what you eat-----
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
At the end of life, there should be counseling, hospice
My parents died of cancer, in 2000 and 2004. Their experiences were opposite, due to the attitudes of their physicians towards hospice care. My mother died in agony, terrified, and alone, because her physician refused to use the “H” word. He kept us all in the dark, and the pain management was woefully inadequate. Four years later, I was next to my father in the ER when a wonderful physician — a stranger — answered his questions about the prognosis gently, compassionately and honestly. At the end, my dad was in a hospice facility. He passed peacefully and not in apparent pain — the exact moment happened when a hospice volunteer was with him, holding his hand. My sister and I had taken a dinner break from a multi-day vigil. I was so impressed with that hospice volunteer that I became one. And it has changed my life. The people who work and volunteer for Community Hospice in Schenectady are the most wonderful, intelligent and caring people I have ever met. Because of what I have learned through hospice, about life as well as death, all of the talk lately about death panels and the evil of hospice care has made me so enraged that I could barely write this letter. People like Sarah Palin and Charles Krauthammer (Aug. 22 Gazette), vocal due to their celebrity, know not of what they speak and write. Study after study has shown that many people on hospice care actually live longer than others with their diagnoses who are subjected to violent, invasive and painful procedures for months on end — as was my poor mother. Pain relief, daily visits from trained professionals, and time to think can greatly ease the end of life. Yet most hospice patients do not come onto the service until their very last days — partly because of a reticence to speak of hospice at all. It is like a dirty word. Mr. Krauthammer suggests that with the legislation, talks about hospice will be forced on people, and physicians will be pushing patients towards the end. That view is just not based on reality. His “reasoned discussion about endof-life counseling” instead reflects his lack of knowledge about hospice and palliative care. I wish my mother had had a choice.
Mr. Krauthammer suggests that with the legislation, talks about hospice will be forced on people, and physicians will be pushing patients towards the end. That view is just not based on reality. His “reasoned discussion about end of-life counseling” instead reflects his lack of knowledge about hospice and palliative care. I wish my mother had had a choice.
Hospice IS already the end of life, aka DYING, suppliers. They are recognized and approved by ALL insurance companies both private and government funded. And YES, they are even now being forced on a terminal patient. I know that from my own personal experienced.
Medications, hospital beds, at home nurses/aids, wheelchairs etc.. are readily available through hospice. Just try to get a hospital bed at home without hospice. Almost an impossibility.
And shadow....as much as I agree with your 'between patient and doctor' theory....in the end, it doesn't exist. Even the doctors push the terminally ill off on hospice. There is no other choice!
And since they are covered by all insurance companies.....why do people donate to them? Just something I always wondered.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
VIEWPOINT Shouting it down Public health care protests based on falsehoods, myths BY ANTHONY J. SANTO For The Sunday Gazette
On Aug. 25 I attended Rep. Paul Tonko’s town hall meeting at Elm Avenue Park in Delmar. I would like to take this opportunity to address some of the concerns expressed by those against a public option. One man I spoke to accused the government of trying to steal his money to pay for the health insurance of others. All government policies and programs require funding. This funding is obtained through taxation, not theft. It is no more theft to fund a public option through taxation than it is to fund the war in Iraq through taxation. Many, myself included, consider that war unnecessary and counterproductive. However, to accuse the government of theft to fund a program is a specious argument used to cover up meaningful dialogue on the program. In fact, I call upon those seniors with Medicare who are against a public option to stand up and publicly opt out of the program and buy private insurance. They don’t want that government bureaucrat in the exam room with them, do they? If they argue they have already paid into the system, I have one question. Aren’t your principles and the best health care available more important than money? ABORTION FEAR There was a widespread fear that a program of public health insurance would provide for abortion. First, some abortions are necessary to protect a woman’s life. Second, whether abortion is legal or illegal, funded by...........................>>>>...............................>>>>>................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....1&Continuation=1
Myth 1 the courts have ruled that unless a bill spells out that a procedure is denied it will be allowed and that's why the Dems have refused wording to be allowed into the bill that excludes abortion. Myth 2 all government programs require more taxes to fund their socialist programs and it's money we don't have and the program always costs 10 times more than they say it will. Myth 3 if Medicare is working so well then why is it going bankrupt, the reason is because of the government handling and mandates. Myth 4 there might not be any death panels but denying someone the treatment they need accomplishes the same goal the patient dies. As far as stealing money goes the government has already done that when the Dems took the surplus money out of the Social Security Trust and used it for their social programs and never replaced it leaving SS on the verge of bankruptcy. The government also ran Freddie Mac and Fannie May so well they had to be bailed out with our tax dollars. This government couldn't run a lemonade stand and show a profit why should we trust them with 1/6th of our economy when they have such a bad track record.
White House: public health care plan is negotiable
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 36 mins ago
WASHINGTON – White House officials said Sunday a government health insurance option is negotiable, signaling a potential compromise on an issue that President Barack Obama's liberal supporters consider do-or-die. As Obama prepares for a Wednesday night speech to Congress in a risky bid to salvage his top domestic priority, political adviser David Axelrod said a public plan is not the core issue in the health care debate. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs danced around a question about whether Obama would veto a bill without the public option. The president "believes the public option is a good tool," said Axelrod, who joined with Gibbs in a one-two punch on the Sunday talk shows. "It shouldn't define the whole health care debate, however." Their appearances came ahead of Congress' return this week from a summer break that saw eroding public support for an overhaul and contentious town hall meetings in lawmakers' districts. Gibbs called the government plan a valuable tool. But asked if Obama would reject legislation that didn't include it, he responded: "We are not going to prejudge where the process will be." "I doubt we are going to get into heavy veto threats" in the president's speech, Gibbs added..................>>>>.................................>>>>..............http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_overhaul
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