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What Strock didn’t say about what makes one gay

    Carl Strock’s view expressed in “Being Gay: Where does it come from? [June 23 Gazette]” considers “circumstances during pregnancy and childbirth” as the only part of the 61 to 66 percent of a person’s sexual orientation explained by their unique environment worthy of mention.
    I do not understand why he does not want to consider unique environmental effects such as under-socialized adolescents and young adults being befriended by homosexuals, the infl uence of homosexuality’s increasing portrayal in movies and television, increased teaching about homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle in schools, and the deeming of the lifestyle to be outside one’s control by newspaper opinion columnists (to name a few) as having strong influences on a person’s choice of sexual persuasion.

    MICHAEL PALEY
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N.Y. clerk Laura Fortusky resigns in protest of gay marriage; refused to sign same-sex licenses
BY ALEX KATZ, CELESTE KATZ AND GLENN BLAIN
DAILY NEWS ALBANY BUREAU
Tuesday, July 12th 2011, 3:00 PM


ALBANY - An upstate town clerk resigned this week rather than issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples - drawing the wrath of Gov. Cuomo.

"When you enforce the laws of the state, you don't get to pick and choose which laws," Cuomo said when asked about Barker Town Clerk Laura Fotusky's decision to step down.

"So if you can't enforce the law, then you shouldn't be in that position," he added. "You can't pick and choose -- the law is the law."

Fotusky, a Republican, informed the town board of the Broome County community outside Binghamton Monday that she would be "compromising my moral conscience" by administering marriage licenses for gay couples.

Fotusky, 56, appears to be the first municipal official in New York to resign in protest over the Legislature's vote legalize same sex marriages effective July 24. She has served since 2007.

"There was no protection provided in the legislation for town clerks who are unable to sign these marriage licenses due to personal religious convictions, even though our U.S. Constitution supports freedom of religion," Fotusky wrote in her resignation letter.................>>>>..................>>>>................Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_....._.html#ixzz1Rz99vWh4
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There were similar issues when mixed races married.
  If you aren't prepared to follow the laws of a state, then don't work for that state.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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then don't work for that state.


She's not! DUH!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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She's not! DUH!


YUP!  You're right.  
Rephrased:
  If you aren't prepared to follow the laws of a state, then don't work in a job that requires it.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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YUP!  You're right.  
Rephrased:
  If you aren't prepared to follow the laws of a state, then don't work in a job that requires it.  


I agree.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Mike hail$ gay-nup GOPers
By DAVID SEIFMAN
Last Updated: 6:42 AM, July 14, 2011
Posted: 1:34 AM, July 14, 2011

Four Republican legislators who broke ranks with their colleagues to enact gay marriage in New York have each received $10,300 campaign contributions from Mayor Bloomberg.

Mayoral aides confirmed the donations after filings were released yesterday.

"The mayor said he would support Senate Republicans who stood up, and he did," said Micah Lasher, director of Bloomberg's Albany lobbying office.

Bloomberg's $41,200 came through after the Senate on June 24 made New York the sixth state in the nation to legalize same-sex marriages.




Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mike_hail_gay_nup_gopers_bpmgdIQVtWqzwI6HGCq5HO#ixzz1S4vFw1iI
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Let's see what the people in their districts think of the votes they cast when they run for re-election.
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Let's see what the people in their districts think of the votes they cast when they run for re-election.

My guess...
Open minded Republicans will continue to reelect them... plus support from Gays of either party and Democrats who will vote for them because they had the courage to do what was right.


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She doesn't have to resign as Town Clerk .. all she has to do is resign as the Marriage Officer for the town.

The Town Clerk in Guilderland has just done that.    

Frankly, it is an interesting issue --- one that future candidates for Town Clerk will have to wrestle with and takea stance on.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
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Who do you wrestle with, Severe?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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As I predicted...  New Yorkers are donating in a huge way for a man who was courageous enough to do the right thing:
McDonald's campaign coffers swelling after his vote for same-sex marriage

"Senator McDonald raked in $163,220.53 since the last filing in January 2011, which was over six times what he raised during the same period in 2009."

(The Daily Gazette)
http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/jul/15/71511_mcdonald-money/


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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As I predicted...  New Yorkers are donating in a huge way for a man who was courageous enough to do the right thing:
McDonald's campaign coffers swelling after his vote for same-sex marriage

"Senator McDonald raked in $163,220.53 since the last filing in January 2011, which was over six times what he raised during the same period in 2009."

(The Daily Gazette)
http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/jul/15/71511_mcdonald-money/


That is for a six-month period  --- how much came in BEFORE the vote and how much came in AFTER the vote. The January 2012 report should provide a better picture on how his vote may have helped or hurt his fundraising efforts.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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Who do you wrestle with, Severe?


himself?   I can see him sitting in his sagging chair watching that crap wrestling on tV has talks to the tv and he sits on the edge of the chair


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Gay-nuptials wedding suit
By AMBER SUTHERLAND and DAVID K. LI
Last Updated: 4:04 AM, July 26, 2011
Posted: 1:44 AM, July 26, 2011

Opponents of same-sex marriage filed the first lawsuit against the New York state measure yesterday, attacking politicians who allegedly violated open-meetings laws -- and had the nerve to turn off their cellphones.
A coalition of clergymen, under the umbrella of New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms, wants the Marriage Equality Act thrown out, arguing that state senators cut illegal back-room deals.
The plaintiffs were particularly miffed that swing-vote Republicans allegedly turned off their mobile phones on June 24, the day of the historic vote.
"Republican senators turned their cellphones off so that neither the public nor their staff could reach them," wrote Rena Lindevaldsen, the coalition's lawyer, of Lynchburg, Va.....................>>>>....................>>>>...............Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gay_nuptials_wedding_suit_goy9YpUl1Sax2plRAVPatJ#ixzz1TD71WG2f
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