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Formal Request for Proposal By the Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 March 29, 2011 For AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES SECTION 1.0 PURPOSE OF THIS FORMAL REQUEST The purpose of this document is to solicit proposals on Ambulance Transportation Services that may be acquired by the Town of Rotterdam, New York. All inquiries concerning this RFP should be addressed to: Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 Phone: (51 355-7575 extension 391 Please carefully read the following submission guidelines which include the basic requirements for the ambulance transportation services. These guidelines also include the desired format of the respondent's proposal. Proposals will be carefully reviewed by designated members of the Town of Rotterdam who have been assigned the task of evaluating each vendor(s) solution. Each vendor will have an appropriate amount of time in which to make a presentation. Please include, with your proposal, an estimate of time for your presentation. IMPORTANT! Vendors are required to have their proposals delivered to the Rotterdam Town Clerk no later than 10:00 a.m. on April 6, 2011. A review of the proposals will be completed by April 11, 2011. A decision will follow for the selection of the most appropriate proposal. It is requested that each vendor not deviate from this protocol. Any marketing initiative should be part of the package. Vendors who are seen to deviate from this protocol will be disqualified from this bid process. 3-31;4-1,2,3,4,5,6 4915
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Does this mean that if TJ Hooker tries to impose another one of those long irrelevant walks down memory lane that REMS will be disqualified???
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Formal Request for Proposal By the Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 March 29, 2011 For AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES SECTION 1.0 PURPOSE OF THIS FORMAL REQUEST The purpose of this document is to solicit proposals on Ambulance Transportation Services that may be acquired by the Town of Rotterdam, New York. All inquiries concerning this RFP should be addressed to: Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 Phone: (51 355-7575 extension 391 Please carefully read the following submission guidelines which include the basic requirements for the ambulance transportation services. These guidelines also include the desired format of the respondent's proposal. Proposals will be carefully reviewed by designated members of the Town of Rotterdam who have been assigned the task of evaluating each vendor(s) solution. Each vendor will have an appropriate amount of time in which to make a presentation. Please include, with your proposal, an estimate of time for your presentation. IMPORTANT! Vendors are required to have their proposals delivered to the Rotterdam Town Clerk no later than 10:00 a.m. on April 6, 2011. A review of the proposals will be completed by April 11, 2011. A decision will follow for the selection of the most appropriate proposal. It is requested that each vendor not deviate from this protocol. Any marketing initiative should be part of the package. Vendors who are seen to deviate from this protocol will be disqualified from this bid process. 3-31;4-1,2,3,4,5,6 4915



It's things like this that the town clerk can either

a. run smoothly
b. run their way


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It is requested that each vendor not deviate from this protocol. Any marketing initiative should be part of the package. Vendors who are seen to deviate from this protocol will be disqualified from this bid process.


Deviate from exactly what? And who on rotterdam's town board will even know if any of them deviated or not? And who will decide who is disqualified and who isn't.

This is clearly way over this town board's head!! They don't have a clue!!!

VIVA REVITALIZE ROTTERDAM!!!


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The ems proposals are in...REMS and Mohawk Ambulance are the only bidders.

Present:

Chief Hamilton...opened sealed proposals.
Michelle Golden
Wayne Calder
David (? forgot his last name, one of the new attorneys from the Porco firm)
Andy Brick/Chris (representing Mohawk)
Joe Vanderwerker and two REMS EMTs
Dean Ronca, FD 2 (? - the one on Curry Road next to the old Kmart plaza)

TJ Hooker conspicuously absent.

Brick and Chris B. were pouring over copies of REMS proposal in Council Chamber.

Joe V. warned me that I "better watch what I say"...I told him everything printed can be confirmed...Ronca reminded him that their attorney told
them not to talk...Chief Hamilton observed the exchange.

FDG and BG arrived right after the uneventful opening of the bids...five copies of each for Supervisor and four Board Members

Have not had a chance to compare proposals but they are available at Clerk's office.


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can rotterdamians foil for them?

oh, and thanks for being there!


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can rotterdamians foil for them?

oh, and thanks for being there!


Yes...anyone can FOIL for them. I am posting REMS RFP...heavily laced with irrelevant statements...some very misleading.

I will FOIL for the Mohawk proposal and post it as soon as I can scan a copy...probably tomorrow morning.

Meanwhile, in a brief side by side comparison, Mohawk has the better offer.

They will dedicate two ambulances to the Town...one permanently stationed in Town and another roaming the Town...with a fleet
of more than 30 ambulances for all back up necessary. REMS will only commit one ambulance to the Town (yet they are currently
the first THREE on the dispatch list).

REMS wants a fee for ALS billing that will average about $8,500 per year, based on ALS call volume. Mohawk will retain nothing
and reimburse the Town 100% of all ALS collections.

There is also the issue of property taxes...Mohawk would be a property taxpayer, REMS is not.



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Sorry for the delay...I had to contact the administrator to allow an attachment. As soon as I get the clearance I'll post the REMS RFP...should be
in a couple of hours.
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Here is the REMS proposal...




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So if I'm reading this correctly.......rems is going to reimburse the town of rotterdam for the als calls....correct?
BUT....
they will with hold $10/call for billing and administrative services????

Soooooooo....rems will 'keep' $10/call that should rightfully be going back to the taxpayers.....correct?

In my world........the rotterdam taxpayers will still be paying for rems....just through the back door...under the guise of billing/admin fees. imho

correct me if my reading comprehension is off tonight....k?


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Two things grabbed my attention.

First, including articles from the newspaper in the proposal in an attempt to damage the reputation of the other ambulance company.  
How low of them to use the unfortunate deaths of accident victims to secure a bid.  Especially when Mohawk was responding to calls that REMS would never respond to because they're BLS.  REMS doesn't respond to life or death emergency calls without accompanied by Rotterdam Paramedics OR,,,guess who??  MOHAWK AMBULANCE.  REMS are doing some armchair quarterbacking wouldn't you say?

Second, is it me or does Rotterdam have a $hit load of fire department?  


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Second, is it me or does Rotterdam have a $hit load of fire department?  


ahhhh.....YUP


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And wouldn't that be considered 'marketing'? Something that wasn't going to be allowed?

Mohawk is used as the 'standard for the state'. They are a well oiled machine and rotterdamians should feel secure in knowing Mohawk would be their 1st choice in ambulance service...IF.....the rotterdam town board should give them the bid. I know....I know...they aren't part of rotterdam's good ole boys club....but there are rotterdamians that work for mohawk as well.

And yes cicero........there are MANY fire dept's in rotterdam. Almost on every street corner!


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REMS bashing Mohawk, in an RFP was TOTALLY uncalled for, outside the scope of the RFP and should immediately disqualify them.
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ROTTERDAM
EMS options submit offers

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    As expected, Mohawk Ambulance and Rotterdam Emergency Medical Services Inc. were the only basic life support providers to answer the request for proposals issued by the town last week.
    Both companies are offering to provide around-the-clock ambulance service in the town at no cost to taxpayers through a two-year contract. But the for-profit Mohawk Ambulance is also offering a free-of-charge billing service to collect fees for the town whenever the town’s paramedic service answers a call.
    “Mohawk understands the town has an interest in collecting and retaining these [advanced life support] fees,” spokesman Tom Nardacci said Wednesday. “They want to do what they can do to help the town maximize that.”
    REMS also offered a billing service to collect paramedic fees, but the nonprofi t ambulance company would assess the town a $10 fee for each call that is billed.
    Frank Salamone, an attorney representing REMS, questioned why Mohawk is now offering to bill paramedic calls for free. Officials from the company previously indicated that they would charge the town about 7 percent of the bill for paramedic service.
    “They said their professionals could never do it at that price,” Salamone said, referring to the $10-per-call cost REMS is offering. .........................>>>>......................>>>>...........................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01304&AppName=1
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