Quoted from AVON


         If the vote passes, it again is a clear indicator that Rotterdam continues to drink their septic tank water.  
          For people to live their lives fretting over whether an ambulance will get to them in 10 minutes or 15 minutes is equivalent to worrying when you will get struck by a meteorite!  Typical mindset for Rotterdam sheeple . . . They don't know no difference!


There is the proof -- Avon has no concern whether or not it takes more time for an ambulance to respond to
a gravely ill or seriously injured person.

Now to Avon's other post which is either incredibly stupid or incredibly frightening  --depending on whether
he/she actually knows what he/she is talking about .. in which case he/she is an elitist totalitarian or if he/she
doesn't know what he/she is talking about than he/she is just a plain fool.

First - ownership of property is not a requirement for having the Constitutional Right of Freedom of Speech ...

Second - one does not have to have his name on a deed to pay a portion of the taxes on that property ..
that I use my income from other properties in other municipalities and/or states to help pay my aunts'
property tax is my personal business  .. and has nothing to do with my CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to have an
opinion on ANY and ALL issues before the Town of Rotterdam and to express publicly my opinion on those
issues WHENEEVER and WHEREVER I choose.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Quoted from AVON


         If the vote passes, it again is a clear indicator that Rotterdam continues to drink their septic tank water.  
          For people to live their lives fretting over whether an ambulance will get to them in 10 minutes or 15 minutes is equivalent to worrying when you will get struck by a meteorite!  Typical mindset for Rotterdam sheeple . . . They don't know no difference!


There is the proof -- Avon has no concern whether or not it takes more time for an ambulance to respond to
a gravely ill or seriously injured person.

           First, the post does not imply any such thing.  You need to learn how to read!  There is absolutely no comparison of response times, nor any mention of either provider.  Secondly, you have absolutely no proof or documentation that Mohawk would be slower than REMS, it's merely your opinion, purely unsubstantiated!  I believe the agreement was for Mohawk to take over the REMS bldgs. where they would station their ambulances.  Your arguements continue to be weak and unsubstantiated, and as we all know, you won't be exercising your choice anywhere but on the forum!

Quoted from AVON

           First, the post does not imply any such thing.  You need to learn how to read!  There is absolutely no comparison of response times, nor any mention of either provider.  Secondly, you have absolutely no proof or documentation that Mohawk would be slower than REMS, it's merely your opinion, purely unsubstantiated!  I believe the agreement was for Mohawk to take over the REMS bldgs. where they would station their ambulances.  Your arguements continue to be weak and unsubstantiated, and as we all know, you won't be exercising your choice anywhere but on the forum!

I am exercising my right --- to talk to people THROUGH OUT the town --- to inform them and to encourage
them to vote   ....   so far  EVERY PERSON that I have spoken to  .. of ALL age groups .. have said that they
will be voting YES on the referendum.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I am exercising my right --- to talk to people THROUGH OUT the town --- to inform them and to encourage
them to vote   ....   so far  EVERY PERSON that I have spoken to  .. of ALL age groups .. have said that they
will be voting YES on the referendum.

When you "talk" to these people of our community, do you tell them the whole truth or just YOUR version that
YOU DO NOT OWN PROPERTY AND HAVE PROVIDED NO PROOF YOU PAY ANY TAXES IN THIS TOWN! Snap that
Bi+tch!

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Second - one does not have to have his name on a deed to pay a portion of the taxes on that property ..
that I use my income from other properties in other municipalities and/or states to help pay my aunts'
property tax is my personal business  .. .

Hey, you can write a check for someone's taxes, however, YOU CANNOT claim ANY benefits.,  YOU CANNOT claim the deduction when you file income taxes.  There is ABSOLUTELY NO RECOGNITION anywhere by anyone not  by another person, not by any private or govt entity that you have any interest whatsoever.

However, while I'm certainly not asking for you to explain your "personal/private" situation, the public records tell most of the story, it would be totally unbelieveable that you "help" pay the taxes.  A pair of elderly women living together totally mortgage free and with a very high income---so high that they don't have the STAR enhanced exemption, and you are trying to make us belive that you "help" them.    With an income that exceeds the threshhold for senior STAR, and having no mortgage, there would be no assistance needed.  Heck my parents ARE eligible for the senior STAR, they live where taxes are higher than Rotterdam and they don't get any help.  

With all the tales you tell, the least you could to is tell something that is believable.

And it's obvious you know that people on this board know how to find out the facts, thus is that why you are going to extremes using terms referencing properties you allegedly own mentioning "municipalities" and then you suddenly start adding "and/or states."  

So DV, have you decidede which of your aunts is going to vote and are YOU going in the booth and pulling the lever for them?

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

  so far  EVERY PERSON that I have spoken to .. have said that they will be voting YES on the referendum.

Is "every person" the 6 trolls you share the table with at the Town Board meetings?  Until you get some skin in the game DV, you will be nothing more than a democrat chickenhawk stooge.

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Quoted from Cicero:
Until you get some skin in the game DV, you will be nothing more than a democrat chickenhawk stooge.

Hey Cicero.  

DVOR is an intelligent, wealthy, highly successful and altruistic conservative Democrat.  He told us so.  He simply elects not to own
property in the Town of Rotterdam and perhaps in New York State and he espouses "progressive" liberal socialist positions
on this message board to elicit responses from those who are less enlightened.

Sounds a lot like wealthy elitist war-hero John Kerry who docks his boat in Rhode Island to avoid paying personal property tax to his
home state of Massachusetts.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Of course --   McGarry, O'Connor, Rhinesmith, and Parisi will have to do a 180 degree turn by next summer ...
as they make another attempt to lie and cheat their way into public office

That's a fairly provacative comment.  I must say, I'm feeling a little provoked - LOL!

Hey, Ron...I'm pretty sure I've never shown you any disrespect.  I'm curious as to why you feel it necessary to poke me, especially when I'm minding my own business?  That's usually ill-advised.

Quoted from 78

Hey Cicero.  

DVOR is an intelligent, wealthy, highly successful and altruistic conservative Democrat.  He told us so.  He simply elects not to own
property in the Town of Rotterdam and perhaps in New York State and he espouses "progressive" liberal socialist positions
on this message board to elicit responses from those who are less enlightened.

Sounds a lot like wealthy elitist war-hero John Kerry who docks his boat in Rhode Island to avoid paying personal property tax to his
home state of Massachusetts.

Probably can't afford to buy propoperty.   A grown man living with relatives and "helping" them pay their taxes even though one aunt alone gets a VERY GENEROUS pension

Quote from DVoR; thread Rotterdam Politics, Consolidated Assessing . . . .

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I guess you must not have been following my posts all throughout the election campaign --- I supported
Ms. Savage, Mr. Santabarbara, and Mr. Cuomo    precisely because they have been calling for cuts in the
number of state mandates.    Mr. Farley - on the other hand - admitted that he had done NOTHING in 34
years to stop new state mandates .. let alone reduce them.

Mr. Cuomo is a long time proponent of intergovernmental shared services arrangements -- such as the
CAU proposal.    Mr. Cuomo has also been a long time supporter of consolidating school districts,
consolidating town and other municipalities, and eliminating the village form of government ... all of which
would save tens of millions of tax payer dollars.

As for completely eliminating the function of assessor -- that would be impossible --- unless we eliminated
the property tax system and went to income tax funding of all levels of government.

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    Now he is supporting bigger government, and more taxes with the ambulance tax district!  I hear the squish squish of FLIP/FLOP!  Looks like a contradiction in philosophies, why is that???

Quoted from Michael

That's a fairly provacative comment.  I must say, I'm feeling a little provoked - LOL!

Hey, Ron...I'm pretty sure I've never shown you any disrespect.  I'm curious as to why you feel it necessary to poke me, especially when I'm minding my own business?  That's usually ill-advised.

Because you're not a liberal socialist progressive!

Quoted from AVON

Quote from DVoR; thread Rotterdam Politics, Consolidated Assessing . . . .

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I guess you must not have been following my posts all throughout the election campaign --- I supported
Ms. Savage, Mr. Santabarbara, and Mr. Cuomo    precisely because they have been calling for cuts in the
number of state mandates.    Mr. Farley - on the other hand - admitted that he had done NOTHING in 34
years to stop new state mandates .. let alone reduce them.

Mr. Cuomo is a long time proponent of intergovernmental shared services arrangements -- such as the
CAU proposal.    Mr. Cuomo has also been a long time supporter of consolidating school districts,
consolidating town and other municipalities, and eliminating the village form of government ... all of which
would save tens of millions of tax payer dollars.

As for completely eliminating the function of assessor -- that would be impossible --- unless we eliminated
the property tax system and went to income tax funding of all levels of government.

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    Now he is supporting bigger government, and more taxes with the ambulance tax district!  I hear the squish squish of FLIP/FLOP!  Looks like a contradiction in philosophies, why is that???

Probably because you need to have it explained with cartoon characters  ....
but the fact is that we are already giving REMS  $120,000 a year  (that is 5 cent per thousand of the taxes
that you already are paying) .. essentially -- you taxes will only go up 5 more cents per thousand  .. to
provide for this vital public service.
And --- if you can remember back to August 2009  .. when the previous administration put forward the idea
of having a referendum on a tax district  ---  you will recall that I began my public comments on the
proposal by expressing reservations about establishing another tax district   ... and I went one step further
in calling on the previous administration to promise to not just redirect the $120,000 budgeted for REMS in
the GENERAL FUND  to some other budget line .. but to look for a way to reduce the property taxe rate paid
for the General Fund portion of the budget.

Quoted from 78

Hey Cicero.  

DVOR is an intelligent, wealthy, highly successful and altruistic conservative Democrat.  He told us so.  He simply elects not to own
property in the Town of Rotterdam and perhaps in New York State and he espouses "progressive" liberal socialist positions
on this message board to elicit responses from those who are less enlightened.

Sounds a lot like wealthy elitist war-hero John Kerry who docks his boat in Rhode Island to avoid paying personal property tax to his
home state of Massachusetts.

Funny --- you send me an email back in late August saying how much you agreed with my positions --- now
you are calling me a liberal socialist.     The fact is that I am a moderate-conservative Democrat .. I have
been so all my life and am proud of it.   When it comes to foreign policy and defense policy ... I am
probably more conservative than MOST of the GOP members of Congress.   I am 100% Pro-Life across the
board.    I could go on and on ... but this much you can be certain I am not now nor have I ever been a
socialist.      
As for my personal property and my personal finances -- it really isn't any of your business.

Finally, I would say this ... this website has become a joke .. you folks don't care about actual thoughtful
discussions of issues.   I tried from day 1 to engage in thoughtful discussions of issues and have been
met with attacks on me and my family, utter lies being thrown out on the internet by people who can't
seem to have a conversation without tearing someone else down.
So if you folks want to keep the conversation in the gutter  -- if you keep attacking me and my family --
I will respond in kind to your attacks.  If you want a thoughtful discussion of issues -- then by all means
we can have that.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Finally, I would say this ... this website has become a joke .. you folks don't care about actual thoughtful
discussions of issues.   I tried from day 1 to engage in thoughtful discussions of issues and have been
met with attacks on me and my family, utter lies being thrown out on the internet by people who can't
seem to have a conversation without tearing someone else down.
So if you folks want to keep the conversation in the gutter  -- if you keep attacking me and my family --
I will respond in kind to your attacks.  If you want a thoughtful discussion of issues -- then by all means
we can have that.

We re having thoughtful discussions, DV.    You make a comment that crime is going down bigtime in Schenecxtady.  OK, a logical thoughtful intelligent discussion.  However with the daily reports of crimes, and children getting shot in broadaylight, it's difficult for any inteliigent person to believe crime is going down.....as YOU say.  Then YOU clainm that it's stats from the FBI.  When we ask you to prove it, your refuse.  YOU tell us to find the website and alleged info ourselves     Well, since I have looked both on their website and putting many key words in a search and still have not found ANY stats from the FBI that says that cirme is going way down in Schenectady, then ANY AND EVERY intellligent person would ask you to provide your source.  But you STILL ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to provide proof.  Since you refuse to provide proof, and proof has not been found by going to the FBI website, then obviously the facts are that you are making it up.  If you want to be believed, then provide proof of the thiings you say.

We have a thread about the pension padding in Schenectady.  You have the nerve to post on it but ABSOTELY REFUSE to state your opinion.    Since EACH AND EVERY poster on that thread is opposed to Stratton's ILLEGAL and SECRET deal, and you are the one lone person who has neigher stated support nor opposition, we wonder.  So we ask you a normal question......a normal question that ANY NORMAL person would ask to anyone who posts SOMETHING on that thread.  But your desire to have discussion is one in which you DO NOT IN ANY MANNER HAVE A DISCUSSION about the pension padding.  A simple question to you if you support or oppose and then YOU, instead of engaging in discussion OF THE TOPIC, avoid talking about and go off on a totally unrelated tangent.

This is a thread on the ambulance issue.  Tell us what do you do, if you are at home alone and you need to call an ambulance, and when REMS arrives, you are unable to speak or move.  How do you tell them what meds you take, what health issures you have.  If Mohawk Ambulance arrives, and you have enrolled in the "invisible bracelet" then they would have all the info available.    Without such important info, HOW could the responding medical people properly and safely treat you?????   Is REMS planning on doing such a service?  

Also, what about the homebound people who are opposed to this, are they going to be given abentee ballots?  How about the military people, are they to be given military ballots?   Or are the these two groups of people going to be denied their right to vote?