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“It’s a complicated matter because the town can’t just go out and decide we’re going to forsake Rotterdam EMS and go with private industry, because private industry offers no guarantees,” said Rotterdam Supervisor Steven Tommasone.
What is Tommasone tallking about? First of all...government has got to get out of the medical/ambulance business. Leave it to the private sector and patient. Second, is Mr. Tommasone thinking of creating a tax district that will supply the town with an ambulance service that will match one like Mohawk? Does he have any idea how much that will cost the taxpayers?????

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If the town continues using Rotterdam EMS, it will have to create a new taxing district. If it goes with Mohawk Ambulance Services, there will be no additional cost to taxpayers.  
Now that should be a no brainer!! If Mohawk can't fill the bill....break their contract!

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A decision could be made as early as this week, but Tommasone said it looks like the town will continue using Rotterdam EMS as their ambulance service.
Like at the agenda meeting this thursday? Without public input?

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“I don’t speak for the entire board or for Mohawk Ambulance Service or Rotterdam EMS, but I can tell you who I do speak for, and that’s the people in the town,” said Tommasone. “When I see people around town they all tell me the same thing, which is resoundingly that they want to keep what we have, and they want to find a way for us to ensure that Rotterdam EMS can continue.”
Well Mr. Tommasone, it is YOUR responsibility as the town supervisor to explain the these people that you see around town, how the same people would be working in the same capacity, just working for Mohawk which in turn would NOT cost the taxpayers a dime!

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“What we’ll do is we’ll go through this year with a contract with Rotterdam EMS, and from there we’ll establish a tax district and go through just as we do with our fire district or water district,” said Tommasone.
So are we being led to believe that Tommasone has already made HIS choice? Good upcoming election move..eh?


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All the police and fire men apparently back the REMS, so he doesn't want to lose that vote. There are 1,000's of supporters of this so what would you do?


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All the police and fire men apparently back the REMS, so he doesn't want to lose that vote. There are 1,000's of supporters of this so what would you do?
What would I do? I would do what was best for the TAXPAYERS!!!! How many people live in Rotterdam? 30,000, 35,000? Are you saying that he would sell his political soul for just    1,000?

Anyway, I thought that the cops were conservs. If that is true, and they are 'true conservs'...they should be dead set against forming a tax base for an ambulance service. In fact they should be screaming NO!! We'll have to see if it is all about conservatism or just forming a good old boys club.IMHO



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I can't make it to the meeting on Thursday.  Is there anybody here who could go and give us a report of the results of that meeting?  I don't know if we'll get anything from the papers.


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No problem Kevin........


The Board voted 3 to 1 to approve funding for REMS.

Mertz was the sole dissenting vote and spoke for about 15 minutes about how it is fiscally irresponsible and reminded the public of the difficult economy, how they need to consider all options, blah, blah, blah.  Steve spoke about the need to have a community-based EMS, blah blah blah and in the end 3-1. (Silva MIA)
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I thought Tommasone was against it according to Sal. what do you think, Papa, of this result?


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When did they vote on this? Was it a special meeting? Why wasn't the public informed about this vote? Or perhaps I just didn't hear about it. Well, Tommasone and crew just shot themselves in their conservative foot with this one!! This is one of the most fiscally irresponsible moves I've seen in a long time!!!!


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Oh yeah and Bumble will echo Mertz's  words of "fiscal irresponsibility".  
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Oh yeah and Bumble will echo Mertz's  words of "fiscal irresponsibility".  
I don't quite think Mr. Mertz nor myself have cornered the market on the words 'fiscal irresponsibility'. In fact I believe the words 'fiscal irrespnsibility'and 'fiscal responsibility' are the words (that should be) most commonly used by the conservative party. Yes?


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I think they here have engaged in a some kind of plot overe there to make it look like they back it when they will latter on kill it off since they never do anything good these repubs and are running scared after they raised the taxes 30 per cent
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No problem Kevin........


The Board voted 3 to 1 to approve funding for REMS.

Mertz was the sole dissenting vote and spoke for about 15 minutes about how it is fiscally irresponsible and reminded the public of the difficult economy, how they need to consider all options, blah, blah, blah.  Steve spoke about the need to have a community-based EMS, blah blah blah and in the end 3-1. (Silva MIA)


Really?  That's interesting...look below...

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When did they vote on this? Was it a special meeting? Why wasn't the public informed about this vote? Or perhaps I just didn't hear about it. Well, Tommasone and crew just shot themselves in their conservative foot with this one!! This is one of the most fiscally irresponsible moves I've seen in a long time!!!!


It hasn't happened yet.  In fact, the meeting that it's to happen at, the agenda meeting for the town board meeting to be held next week...is Thursday night.

I think Papa picked up the crystal ball that fell to the floor in the Super Bowl commercial on Sunday night...although I must say...it seems to be pretty close to what's actually going to happen.


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I agree, this issue should be put on the ballot as a referendum to let the people who are going to be paying for the ambulance service decide what they want to do after all the options are explained to them, pros and cons.


Indeed it should...and it needs to be done in NOVEMBER when the largest portion of residents will be at the polls . And every effort
should be made to inform as many as possible of ALL options and their implications. I addressed the Town Board about just that in
December, but they seem hell bent on this insanity - all to cater to the public employee unions, and the majority be damned.

Don't forget to tune in to Paul V. tomorrow on 1300 at 9:00am to hear what Steve doesn't want to know and wouldn't tell you if he did.
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Seems as though Mr. Tommasone has already made our minds up for us.



Didn't I read a posting in this forum thread that a poll taken a week or so ago concluded that 76% of those responding were opposed to the creation of a tax district?  Can someone provide a link to the poll question and the actual results that were obtained?  It appears that a disconnect exists here.  Does Mr. Tommasone tell the people to who he speaks that to "keep what we have" will require the creation of a tax district and additional tax levy?

It sounds like a referendum should be held so that the Rotterdam town residents can decide this issue.


You did. It was a robocall electronic survey, where those surveyed were asked to answer questions by pressing different numbers. 76% answered NO when asked if we should create a new tax district with private options. I can get you more details on that, and I'll post
them when I do. Meanwhile, residents should be demanding a mandatory referendum on the matter.
And no - I doubt Steve explains that keeping "what we have" will require an additional tax levy, let alone the guaranteed and rapid rise of those taxes due to the astronomical cost of such a service. I don't even know when Steve talks to people "all over town" - he
doesn't do that even when he's campaigning!
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What would I do? I would do what was best for the TAXPAYERS!!!! How many people live in Rotterdam? 30,000, 35,000? Are you saying that he would sell his political soul for just    1,000?

Anyway, I thought that the cops were conservs. If that is true, and they are 'true conservs'...they should be dead set against forming a tax base for an ambulance service. In fact they should be screaming NO!! We'll have to see if it is all about conservatism or just forming a good old boys club.IMHO



Advancing conservative ideals has nothing to do with the cop union's involvement in the Conservative Party...don't hold your breath
waiting for them to scream "NO".
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I don't even know when Steve talks to people "all over town" - he doesn't do that even when he's campaigning!


You should meet up with him in church on Sunday morning - he's always campaigning on the front steps
Oh, did I mention, the church he attends is in the city - not in Rotterdam
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