Wow Ronny boy you have a lot of power over there at town hall.
Please do no include me in the "happy" people willing to pay for assurance of REMS! I for one cannot afforde another tax. I can do what FDG did and drive MYSELF to the ER. He didn't call REMS and maybe you should be asking him why.
First, Mr. Del Gallo is an adult who can speak for himself. If you have any questions to ask him, go down to Town Hall or give him a call at Town Hall.
Second, vote the way you like .. as long as a majority approves the district .. it doesn't really bother me whether you are in that majority or not.
Third, my name is Ron ... not Ronny Boy .. the only person that I let call me Ronnie was my Mom and she is gone and you are not replacing her.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
So, I realize that a certain amount of money comes out of our taxes to pay for the fire and police departments, but answer one thing for me. When and if you need these groups to come to your house, how much is the bill that gets sent to you afterwards? Answer - ZERO!
Also, the police are also way overpaid, if you didn't notice that over half of the taxes you pay to your town goes to the police. Now, that being said, they also take a large risk each and every day they are on the job. They also help to enforce most of the laws that are on the books (excluding that part about the election signs).
Now, as far as your idea of the "bucket brigade," the fact is that we sort of have that already. See, in this town, the firefighters are VOLUNTEERS, something that the people who serve on the ambulance squad USED TO BE, until they had a change in management and everybody thought that they deserved a paycheck. Funny, I wonder what the pay wages were that Ben Franklin thought about putting up for those who would help someone to fight a fire. Oh, that's right, people were just expected to help out, as it would also be a protection for their family. If they help out someone who is fighting a fire, then the person they are helping would be there if and when they needed help. Again, that was VOLUNTEER, but people also understood the importance of it.
How much would the taxing district be "necessary" if there was not a paycheck to draw from being on the squad? I realize that the board of the squad is volunteers and they don't get paid. I respect them for that and for trying to figure out the situation that they have been put into with the IRS that the former leaders put them into. The thing is, they have turned it from a service for the few to a business. They want to run it like a business, then they can live and die like a business. If for a long enough time their expenses outweigh the revenues, they'll have to close.
I understand the importance of having REMS. I see no need to be taxed for them to be running.
you forgot the rest of the town code not tickets for noise racetracks red lights stop sighs just driving thru parking lots and walmart
Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
you forgot the rest of the town code not tickets for noise racetracks red lights stop sighs just driving thru parking lots and walmart
Yeah, I just didn't have time to go through the entire code tonight. Sorry about those things that you included and those that both of us overlooked tonight.
REMS is asking the rotterdam tax payers to pay a THIRD time for their service. 1. rotterdamians already pay through their payroll taxes for medicare/medicaid/fica 2. rotterdaminas already pay through their private insurance premium ..............and now they want rotterdamians to pay AGAIN through a taxing district????? This is the most bizarre proposal people in rotterdam have ever heard.
And may I ask... this big concern about not having more than on ambulance available 24/7 IN ROTTERDAM.................Who the hell responded to ALL of the rotterdam calls while REMS was aol????? Mohawk handled them all without ANY ambulance parked in rotterdam!!!
Ya gotta love the liberal socialist when they use that 'fear tactic' instead of sound facts to promote their taxing agenda!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
REMS is asking the rotterdam tax payers to pay a THIRD time for their service. 1. rotterdamians already pay through their payroll taxes for medicare/medicaid/fica 2. rotterdaminas already pay through their private insurance premium ..............and now they want rotterdamians to pay AGAIN through a taxing district????? This is the most bizarre proposal people in rotterdam have ever heard.
And may I ask... this big concern about not having more than on ambulance available 24/7 IN ROTTERDAM.................Who the hell responded to ALL of the rotterdam calls while REMS was aol????? Mohawk handled them all without ANY ambulance parked in rotterdam!!!
Ya gotta love the liberal socialist when they use that 'fear tactic' instead of sound facts to promote their taxing agenda!!!!
This is a pack of LIES ... Mohawk only responded to about 10% of the calls in Rotterdam and there are conflicting reasons given for why .. in some cases the call was directed to Mohawk first WITHOUT attempting to contact REMS.
The big concern about only having ONE ambulance available 25/7/365 .. is that we now have 4 ambulances available 24/7/365 --- it doesn't make sense to cut the available number of ambulances by 75%. It is at least 5 miles from Mohawk's State Street facility to the townline --- EVERY extra minute which is added to reponse times could cost a human life.
The private insurance payment does NOT pay for Capital Expenses like purchasing new ambulance -- it only pays for the actual ambulance ride and the service provided. The tax district would be paying for the Capital Expenses justas your water district and/or sewer district levies a tax to pay for the Capital Expense of paying for the lines in the ground and associated equipment.
Medicare/Medicaid/Fica would only pay for ambulance service for those who actually qualify for Medicare or Medicaid --- which means the person probably doesn't have a private health insurance coverage.
The ONLY people using fear tactics are the LYING pack of obstructionists who are opposed to REMS and the ambulance tax district.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
This is a pack of LIES ... Mohawk only responded to about 10% of the calls in Rotterdam and there are conflicting reasons given for why .. in some cases the call was directed to Mohawk first WITHOUT attempting to contact REMS.
The big concern about only having ONE ambulance available 25/7/365 .. is that we now have 4 ambulances available 24/7/365 --- it doesn't make sense to cut the available number of ambulances by 75%. It is at least 5 miles from Mohawk's State Street facility to the townline --- EVERY extra minute which is added to reponse times could cost a human life.
The private insurance payment does NOT pay for Capital Expenses like purchasing new ambulance -- it only pays for the actual ambulance ride and the service provided. The tax district would be paying for the Capital Expenses justas your water district and/or sewer district levies a tax to pay for the Capital Expense of paying for the lines in the ground and associated equipment.
Medicare/Medicaid/Fica would only pay for ambulance service for those who actually qualify for Medicare or Medicaid --- which means the person probably doesn't have a private health insurance coverage.
The ONLY people using fear tactics are the LYING pack of obstructionists who are opposed to REMS and the ambulance tax district.
More lies. There are a number of times I've heard the scanner go off that they can't get a crew together and were directed to contact Mohawk.
Mohawk will open a facility in Rotterdam - by taking over the current REMS property.
This is a pack of LIES ... Mohawk only responded to about 10% of the calls in Rotterdam and there are conflicting reasons given for why .. in some cases the call was directed to Mohawk first WITHOUT attempting to contact REMS.
The big concern about only having ONE ambulance available 25/7/365 .. is that we now have 4 ambulances available 24/7/365 --- it doesn't make sense to cut the available number of ambulances by 75%. It is at least 5 miles from Mohawk's State Street facility to the townline --- EVERY extra minute which is added to reponse times could cost a human life.
The private insurance payment does NOT pay for Capital Expenses like purchasing new ambulance -- it only pays for the actual ambulance ride and the service provided. The tax district would be paying for the Capital Expenses justas your water district and/or sewer district levies a tax to pay for the Capital Expense of paying for the lines in the ground and associated equipment.
Medicare/Medicaid/Fica would only pay for ambulance service for those who actually qualify for Medicare or Medicaid --- which means the person probably doesn't have a private health insurance coverage.
The ONLY people using fear tactics are the LYING pack of obstructionists who are opposed to REMS and the ambulance tax district.
You are clueless Ron...
The ten percent call response recently cited was for THIS PAST YEAR ONLY. Prior to that year, Mohawk was responded to as many as half of REM's dropped calls....while REMS currently employs more than 60 people to operate the only two ambulances currently in service...and under the current system, all ems calls go to REMS/Rotterdam Paramedics first, and always have.
We are not cutting anything in terms of the number of ambulances...we would essentially have the entire Mohawk fleet at our disposal as coverage demands.
Insurance isn't supposed to pay for capital expenses...and taxpayers shouldn't have to either...they are built into a PROFITABLE business that provides a service for which the insurance companies pay....while taxpayers are funding the very Medicaid/Medicare covering ems.
It is indeed you Ron employing the scare tactics and emotional appeals that have defined the pro-tax campaign...as facts, common sense and fiscal responsibility could never justify such a tax under the circumstances.
You are clueless Ron... The ten percent call response recently cited was for THIS PAST YEAR ONLY. Prior to that year, Mohawk was responded to as many as half of REM's dropped calls....while REMS currently employs more than 60 people to operate the only two ambulances currently in service...and under the current system, all ems calls go to REMS/Rotterdam Paramedics first, and always have. We are not cutting anything in terms of the number of ambulances...we would essentially have the entire Mohawk fleet at our disposal as coverage demands. Insurance isn't supposed to pay for capital expenses...and taxpayers shouldn't have to either...they are built into a PROFITABLE business that provides a service for which the insurance companies pay....while taxpayers are funding the very Medicaid/Medicare covering ems. It is indeed you Ron employing the scare tactics and emotional appeals that have defined the pro-tax campaign...as facts, common sense and fiscal responsibility could never justify such a tax under the circumstances.
You are the CLUELESS one -- insurance isn't paying for the capital expenses ... taxpayers have paid for the capital expenses of public services for years. Medicare/Medicaid only pays for EMS for those who qualify NOT for every person cared for by EMS. Going from 4 ambulances housed in the town to 1 ambulance IS a 75% cut -- even a 2nd grader could figure that one out. I have NOT employed a single "scare tactic" -- only citing the facts -- facts which the residents have a right to know before voting. Facts which you would rather they not know .. because your arguments against REMS are so pathetic. Makes me wonder if you are getting paid by Mohawk Ambulance to badmouth REMS.
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You are the CLUELESS one -- insurance isn't paying for the capital expenses ... taxpayers have paid for the capital expenses of public services for years. Medicare/Medicaid only pays for EMS for those who qualify NOT for every person cared for by EMS. Going from 4 ambulances housed in the town to 1 ambulance IS a 75% cut -- even a 2nd grader could figure that one out. I have NOT employed a single "scare tactic" -- only citing the facts -- facts which the residents have a right to know before voting. Facts which you would rather they not know .. because your arguments against REMS are so pathetic. Makes me wonder if you are getting paid by Mohawk Ambulance to badmouth REMS.
I never said insurance pays for capital expenses...I said insurers are not SUPPOSED to pay for capital expenses...they are built into the fees charged by providers....and just because taxpayers have covered all of the expenses incurred by public services doesn't mean that all such services should in fact be publicly subsidized services...nor does it mean that we should create a new tax for yet another one that does not need to be publicly subsidized.
In the event that an ems patient is not covered by insurance or public assistance, then payment arrangements are, and should be between the patient and the provider...not the patient and the taxpayer.
Going from four ambulances to one is only a 75% cut when all four are running and there is no other option...with Mohawk we would have a lot more than three additional ambulances at our disposal if necessary...and they will all be maintained...half of a "fleet" of four won't be out of service until taxpayers buy new ones.
As for facts, well...you're a liberal Ron...facts do not have a place in your socialist universe. Your "facts" are based in nothing more than contempt for capitalism. The only genuine facts that have been hidden from the public is the failed financial history of REMS, despite the perpetual bailouts, and the tax free, revenue-generating option of a private service...and those are the facts I have emphasized in great detail. THOSE Ron, are the "pathetic" facts the public should know.
I have never badmouthed REMS...I have only opposed the public financing of their operation.
I never said insurance pays for capital expenses...I said insurers are not SUPPOSED to pay for capital expenses...they are built into the fees charged by providers....and just because taxpayers have covered all of the expenses incurred by public services doesn't mean that all such services should in fact be publicly subsidized services...nor does it mean that we should create a new tax for yet another one that does not need to be publicly subsidized.
It's as simple as that!!! That just about sums it up!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I never said insurance pays for capital expenses...I said insurers are not SUPPOSED to pay for capital expenses...they are built into the fees charged by providers....and just because taxpayers have covered all of the expenses incurred by public services doesn't mean that all such services should in fact be publicly subsidized services...nor does it mean that we should create a new tax for yet another one that does not need to be publicly subsidized.
Anybody knows that this is true. Think about it. You need to pay not only for any item / service that you purchase, but you must also pay for the transport. The fact is, in this case, the basic service you are paying for IS transport. When any ambulance company bills to an insurance company, they have different codes that they bill. The first would be the basic service that they are supplying, the ALS / BLS. Second, they bill for mileage. This charge would be to pay back for not only the gasoline that needs to go into the tank of the ambulance (which, as far as I know, REMS is still notcaught up paying the town back for), but also for the wear and tear on the ambulance. A specific amount of the money that comes from the payment should be set aside until this is needed for repair or replacement of the ambulance. Any business owner who is in business for any amount of time knows what the word depreciation is. This is what business owners use to write off the high cost of specific items that they use. This also helps them plan ahead for when they will most likely need to replace the large items.
The fact is, the ambulance squad needs to see if they have been figuring in the extensive amount that the current ambulances have on them. They should be billing this as part of the cost of the ride, either to the insurance company or to the patient. The insurance company / patient are already billed for the items that are used during the trip, i.e. slings, disposable supplies, oxygen, but they should also be billed for the amount of the life of the ambulance that they have used. If you disagree that this is something that should be billed to the insurance company / patient, then there should be other ways that the squad plan on paying for these. This may be part of the ALS / BLS fee, or it may be part of the mileage charge. It should NOT be ANOTHER TAX ON PEOPLE WHO DO NOT USE THE SERVICE.
And what about the supervisors from Duanesburg and Princetown's take on all of this? Are they willing to impose more taxes on their already HIGH TAXED residents? Or are they going to go the conservative route and let it be a 'pay for service needed' on an individual base?
If they impose more taxes on their residents, when they clearly don't have to, it may cost them their next election.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
And what about the supervisors from Duanesburg and Princetown's take on all of this? Are they willing to impose more taxes on their already HIGH TAXED residents? Or are they going to go the conservative route and let it be a 'pay for service needed' on an individual base?
If they impose more taxes on their residents, when they clearly don't have to, it may cost them their next election.
Rotterdam has to do what is best for Rotterdam .. and in my opinion that is setting up a special tax district for ambulance service and keeping REMS as the provider. What Duanesburg and Princetown think on the matter should not be a factor in our decision ... unless Duanesburg and/or Princetown is planning to dissolve and become a part of Rotterdam.
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NY STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT FEE OF $5.00....................... > > > > >WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's actually been there for a while. Maybe they recently changed the name of it, but it's been there. They need you to pay an additional fee on your insurance so they can afford to put cars on the road to pull you over in case you don't have insurance.
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